Bug#735227: Severity is still serious [was source of jquery is missing]

2014-07-30 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 30/07/2014 08:13, Paul Wise a écrit :

> It is part of the source package, which is part of Debian, which the
> Debian project has promised will comply with the DFSG, which requires
> source code. In addition the ftp team has recently re-stated their
> requirement for source for all source and binary packages. If you would
> like to override the DFSG and or ftp team's position on it, the right
> mechanism to do that is a General Resolution.

Thank you for sharing your opinion Paul, I still think this is
completely absurd though. The file jquery.js is not and will never be
used, displayed, parsed, interpreted, executed, tested, transformed or
processed. It's impossible to sensibly call that a source file.

The DFSG states "The program must include source code" and I confirm
that all parts of activemq that constitute the program executed by the
end users have a proper source file.

I understand it's easier for the FTP Team to consider all elements of
the source packages equally. From a reviewer point of view it would be
difficult to understand how every new package works and what is really
used or not. It may slow down the review process and hamper the project.
But I find it a bit sad that this interpretation is used to hunt down
aggressively harmless issues in existing packages.

Emmanuel Bourg


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Bug#735227: Severity is still serious [was source of jquery is missing]

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Wise
In-Reply-To: <53a73593.5070...@apache.org>

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On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 21:59:15 +0200 Emmanuel Bourg wrote:

> This file has no functional purpose, it's not different than a windows=
=20
> binary left in a source package, so please ignore it. It doesn't harm=20
> anyone's freedom to use and modify this package.

It is part of the source package, which is part of Debian, which the
Debian project has promised will comply with the DFSG, which requires
source code. In addition the ftp team has recently re-stated their
requirement for source for all source and binary packages. If you would
like to override the DFSG and or ftp team's position on it, the right
mechanism to do that is a General Resolution.

https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/04/msg00014.html
https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution#item-4

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bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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Bug#735227: Severity is still serious [was source of jquery is missing]

2014-06-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg

control: severity -1 minor

This file has no functional purpose, it's not different than a windows 
binary left in a source package, so please ignore it. It doesn't harm 
anyone's freedom to use and modify this package.


If you care about this issue I invite you to join the Java Team on 
alioth [1] and upload a repacked version of this package.


Emmanuel Bourg

[1] https://alioth.debian.org/project/request.php?group_id=30085


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Bug#735227: Severity is still serious [was source of jquery is missing]

2014-06-21 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
control: severity -1 serious
X-Debbugs-CC: ftpmas...@debian.org

activemq-web-demo/src/main/webapp/js/jquery-1.4.2.min.js lack source.,
env if you do not use it.

According to Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] (DFSG) #2:
 "The program must include source code, and must allow distribution
  in source code as well as compiled form.".

This could also constitute a license violation for some copyleft
licenses such as the GNU GPL.

In order to solve this problem, you could:
1. repack the origin tarball adding the missing source to it.
2  add the source files to "debian/missing-sources" directory

Both way satisfies the requirement that we ship the source. Second option
might be preferable due to the following reasons [2]:
 - Upstream can do it too and you could even supply a patch to them,
thus full filling our social contract [3], see particularly §2.
 - If source and non-source are in different locations, ftpmasters may
   miss the source and (needlessly) reject the package.
 - The source isn't duplicated in every .diff.gz/.debian.tar.* (though
   this only really matters for larger sources).

You could also ask debian...@lists.debian.org or #debian-qa for more
guidance.

Bastien


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