Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-08 Thread Anders Ingemann
On 8 April 2014 02:48, Jonathan Landis j...@calibersecurity.com wrote:

 Package: cloud.debian.org

 The heartbleed bug has created a situation in which servers must be
upgraded immediately. At the moment the default mirrors listed in the
Debian Wheezy AMI image don't have the patches yet, but
security.debian.orgdoes. So users of the existing image have to update
sources.list on each of
their servers if they want to get patched ASAP.

 Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list by
default?


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 Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list by
default?
Not really. There is a hanging PR at
https://github.com/andsens/bootstrap-vz/pull/33
It's hanging because I never got an answer to my question: What's the
difference between:

http://security.debian.org/  wheezy/updates ...
and
http://http.debian.net/  wheezy-updates ...
?

I am pretty sure only the first one should be there, but I can't for the
life of me figure out why wheezy-updates was added. Is it a bogus source?
The source is 
herehttps://github.com/andsens/bootstrap-vz/blob/399dfa3fa0bc792fb1b8adc633a9e5fefe3b05d7/bootstrapvz/common/tasks/apt.py#L31
.


Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 09:02:12AM +0200, Anders Ingemann a écrit :
 
 It's hanging because I never got an answer to my question: What's the
 difference between:
 
 http://security.debian.org/  wheezy/updates ...
 and
 http://http.debian.net/  wheezy-updates ...
 ?

Sorry for this...

Short answer: they are different, and the ressemblance is only coincidental.

Each lines indicate an URL and a distribution.

http://http.debian.net/ is a mirror of the Debian archive.  The wheezy-updates
distribution is there to together with wheezy, wheezy-backports, jessie, sid,
etc.  It contains the packages that will be part of the next point update.  This
inlcudes security updates, but not immediately after their release.

http:/security.debian.org/ is not a section of the Debian archive, it is an
archive on its own.  If I remember correctly, the rationale for using a
separate archive is that for a quick diffusion of security updates, it was
better to avoid the lag caused by the mirroring of the regular archive.  For
wheezy, the distribution to pick is wheezy/updates.

Both lines are really needed.

Have a nice day,

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Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-08 Thread Anders Ingemann
On 8 April 2014 09:28, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:

 Le Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 09:02:12AM +0200, Anders Ingemann a écrit :
 
  It's hanging because I never got an answer to my question: What's the
  difference between:
 
  http://security.debian.org/  wheezy/updates ...
  and
  http://http.debian.net/  wheezy-updates ...
  ?

 Sorry for this...

 Short answer: they are different, and the ressemblance is only
 coincidental.

 Each lines indicate an URL and a distribution.

 http://http.debian.net/ is a mirror of the Debian archive.  The
 wheezy-updates
 distribution is there to together with wheezy, wheezy-backports, jessie,
 sid,
 etc.  It contains the packages that will be part of the next point update.
  This
 inlcudes security updates, but not immediately after their release.

 http:/security.debian.org/ is not a section of the Debian archive, it is
 an
 archive on its own.  If I remember correctly, the rationale for using a
 separate archive is that for a quick diffusion of security updates, it was
 better to avoid the lag caused by the mirroring of the regular archive.
  For
 wheezy, the distribution to pick is wheezy/updates.

 Both lines are really needed.

 Have a nice day,

 --
 Charles Plessy
 Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan



Aha! Thanks for the detailed explanation Charles. I'll merge this tonight
and put it in the master branch.

 Have a nice day
I will ;-)


Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-08 Thread Anders Ingemann
Already merged about an hour ago ;-)


Anders


On 8 April 2014 16:57, Bromberger, James jame...@amazon.com wrote:

  I’ve pushed a patch to bootstrap-vz that should fix this; pending review
 and merge req pull by Anders.



   James





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 *E: *jame...@amazon.com*   P:* +61 422 166 708   *T:*@JamesBromberger



 *From:* Jimmy Kaplowitz [mailto:jkaplow...@google.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 April 2014 5:22 PM
 *To:* Anders Ingemann; 743...@bugs.debian.org
 *Cc:* Jonathan Landis
 *Subject:* Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list



 The http.debian.net source is presumably the wheezy version of this:



 http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215



 - Jimmy



 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Anders Ingemann and...@ingemann.de
 wrote:

   On 8 April 2014 02:48, Jonathan Landis j...@calibersecurity.com wrote:
 
  Package: cloud.debian.org
 
  The heartbleed bug has created a situation in which servers must be
 upgraded immediately. At the moment the default mirrors listed in the
 Debian Wheezy AMI image don't have the patches yet, but
 security.debian.org does. So users of the existing image have to update
 sources.list on each of their servers if they want to get patched ASAP.
 
  Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list
 by default?
 
 
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  Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list
 by default?

 Not really. There is a hanging PR at
 https://github.com/andsens/bootstrap-vz/pull/33
 It's hanging because I never got an answer to my question: What's the
 difference between:

 http://security.debian.org/  wheezy/updates ...
 and
 http://http.debian.net/  wheezy-updates ...
 ?

 I am pretty sure only the first one should be there, but I can't for the
 life of me figure out why wheezy-updates was added. Is it a bogus source?

 The source is 
 herehttps://github.com/andsens/bootstrap-vz/blob/399dfa3fa0bc792fb1b8adc633a9e5fefe3b05d7/bootstrapvz/common/tasks/apt.py#L31
 .







Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-08 Thread Daniel Roesler
Thanks for patching quickly all!

When can we expect the cloudfront.debian.net repos to be updated with the fix?

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Anders Ingemann and...@ingemann.de wrote:
 Already merged about an hour ago ;-)


 Anders


 On 8 April 2014 16:57, Bromberger, James jame...@amazon.com wrote:

 I've pushed a patch to bootstrap-vz that should fix this; pending review
 and merge req pull by Anders.



   James





 James Bromberger | Solution Architect | Amazon Web Services

 E: jame...@amazon.com   P: +61 422 166 708   T:@JamesBromberger



 From: Jimmy Kaplowitz [mailto:jkaplow...@google.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014 5:22 PM
 To: Anders Ingemann; 743...@bugs.debian.org
 Cc: Jonathan Landis
 Subject: Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list



 The http.debian.net source is presumably the wheezy version of this:



 http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215



 - Jimmy



 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Anders Ingemann and...@ingemann.de
 wrote:

 On 8 April 2014 02:48, Jonathan Landis j...@calibersecurity.com wrote:
 
  Package: cloud.debian.org
 
  The heartbleed bug has created a situation in which servers must be
  upgraded immediately. At the moment the default mirrors listed in the 
  Debian
  Wheezy AMI image don't have the patches yet, but security.debian.org does.
  So users of the existing image have to update sources.list on each of their
  servers if they want to get patched ASAP.
 
  Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list
  by default?
 
 
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  Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list
  by default?

 Not really. There is a hanging PR at
 https://github.com/andsens/bootstrap-vz/pull/33
 It's hanging because I never got an answer to my question: What's the
 difference between:

 http://security.debian.org/  wheezy/updates ...
 and
 http://http.debian.net/  wheezy-updates ...
 ?

 I am pretty sure only the first one should be there, but I can't for the
 life of me figure out why wheezy-updates was added. Is it a bogus source?

 The source is here.








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Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-07 Thread Jonathan Landis

Package: cloud.debian.org

The heartbleed bug has created a situation in which servers must be 
upgraded immediately. At the moment the default mirrors listed in the 
Debian Wheezy AMI image don't have the patches yet, but 
security.debian.org does. So users of the existing image have to update 
sources.list on each of their servers if they want to get patched ASAP.


Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list 
by default?



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Bug#743892: please include security.debian.org in sources.list

2014-04-07 Thread Daniel Roesler
The AWS ELB servers are apparently vulnerable, too, so don't update
your SSL certs on ELB until they are confirmed fixed.

https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=149690tstart=0

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Jonathan Landis j...@calibersecurity.com 
wrote:
 Package: cloud.debian.org

 The heartbleed bug has created a situation in which servers must be upgraded
 immediately. At the moment the default mirrors listed in the Debian Wheezy
 AMI image don't have the patches yet, but security.debian.org does. So users
 of the existing image have to update sources.list on each of their servers
 if they want to get patched ASAP.

 Is there any reason not to include security.debian.org in sources.list by
 default?


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