Bug#744011: Bug# #744011: ITP: cpl-plugin-muse -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE
Hi Julian, On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 07:11:43PM +0200, Julian Taylor wrote: * Package name: cpl-plugin-muse The software is not officially released yet. However, a prerelease is available on the ESO FTP server. I intend to put this into experimental to collect experiences until the official release is made. Debian is no place for pre-release software you found on some ftp server ... I urge you and your sponsors not to upload it. Every package increases the workload of the QA teams of Debian and its derivatives. In how far are packages in experimental increasing the workload ot the QA teams (which one(s) do you mean exactly) and its derivatives? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#744011: ITP: cpl-plugin-muse -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE
Hi Julian, On 09.04.2014 19:11, Julian Taylor wrote: On 09.04.2014 09:45, Ole Streicher wrote: Package: wnpp * Package name: cpl-plugin-muse The software is not officially released yet. However, a prerelease is available on the ESO FTP server. I intend to put this into experimental to collect experiences until the official release is made. Debian is no place for pre-release software you found on some ftp server ... I do not agree here. From the Debian Developer's reference [1]: The experimental distribution is a special distribution. It is not a full distribution in the same sense as stable, testing and unstable are. Instead, it is meant to be a temporary staging area for highly experimental software where there's a good chance that the software could break your system, or software that's just too unstable even for the unstable distribution (but there is a reason to package it nevertheless). Users who download and install packages from experimental are expected to have been duly warned. In short, all bets are off for the experimental distribution. So, there *is* a designated place for early bird software, and I think it is a good practice to do early releases, even if a software is not complete yet [2]. Debian, and also Ubuntu, have a lot of pre-release software. Just think of Wine, which was in a almost-always-crashing prerelease state for years. I helped to have it in Debian to stabilize. If we would limit Debian to released software, lots of software would never have packaged. Just search for software releases with git or svn in the version string. I urge you and your sponsors not to upload it. Every package increases the workload of the QA teams of Debian and its derivatives. I would put cpl-plugin-muse to experimental until ESO publishes an official release or I myself consider it stable enough for testing. I don't see that this really increases the QA team workload. But the opposite: The package will get some stabilization during its existence in experimental; it will be packaged for different architectures, people will punish it with clang etc. So, when the official version comes out, it will already be a bit mature, actually *decreasing* the workload for the QA team. Is there even any free data for MUSE available? So far I know the proprietary phase for ESO data is one year. Thats when we earliest have any use this software. At least the Science Verification Data will be immediately available [3], enabling users to gain some experiences with the instrument and its pipeline. Best regards Ole [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/resources#experimental [2] http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html [3] https://www.eso.org/sci/activities/vltsv/svdoc.pdf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#744011: Bug# #744011: ITP: cpl-plugin-muse -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 09:49:14AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: Therefore: if you disagree with my arguments, please keep the discussion running. We all will benefit from that. While I agree on this in principle I personally would not spend so much time in extensive answers until there is really some relevent discussion. I'm fine with sponsoring your packages and help you out in case of trouble. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#744011: ITP: cpl-plugin-muse -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher deb...@liska.ath.cx X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org,debian-scie...@lists.debian.org, debian-as...@lists.debian.org * Package name: cpl-plugin-muse Version : 0.13.2 Upstream Author : Peter Weilbacher * URL : http://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/paranal/instruments/muse.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE This is the data reduction pipeline for the MUSE instrument of the Very Large Telescope (VLT) from the European Southern Observatory (ESO) . MUSE, the Multi-Unit Spectroscopic Explorer, is an Integral Field Spectrograph located at the Nasmyth B focus of Yepun, the VLT UT4 telescope. It has a modular structure composed of 24 identical IFU modules that together sample, in Wide Field Mode (WFM), a near-contiguous 1 squared arcmin field of view. Spectrally the instrument samples almost the full optical domain with a mean resolution of 3000. Spatially, the instrument is designed to exploit the VLT AO Facility via the GALACSI AO system, sampling the sky with 0.2 arcseconds spatial pixels. The software is not officially released yet. However, a prerelease is available on the ESO FTP server. I intend to put this into experimental to collect experiences until the official release is made. Best regards Ole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#744011: Bug# #744011: ITP: cpl-plugin-muse -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE
On 09.04.2014 09:45, Ole Streicher wrote: Package: wnpp * Package name: cpl-plugin-muse The software is not officially released yet. However, a prerelease is available on the ESO FTP server. I intend to put this into experimental to collect experiences until the official release is made. Debian is no place for pre-release software you found on some ftp server ... I urge you and your sponsors not to upload it. Every package increases the workload of the QA teams of Debian and its derivatives. Is there even any free data for MUSE available? So far I know the proprietary phase for ESO data is one year. Thats when we earliest have any use this software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
