Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > On 28/04/15 12:02, Vincent Cheng wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Now that jessie is out and the freeze is over, would anyone object if >> I were to upload xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental to sid >> now? 3.0 is supposed to be an "imminent release" [1] anyways. > > Given that 2.21.x is completely unmaintained, and that the only relevant > changes > from 2.21.15 to 2.99.901 [1] were SNA enabled by default (which upstream > considers ready and which can be reverted anyway) and XMir integration (which > we > don't care about) I see no reason to withhold this upload any longer. It's not > like we're going to release Stretch with 2.21.x again, so the sooner we upload > it, the more testing it will get. FWIW I used it for several months without > issues. > > This sounds similar to Grub2 being at 2.02~beta2, or when it was at 1.99 for > so > long. Fully agreed here. I've also given out my rationale for updating to 2.99.x in an earlier mail to #748753 [1]. Upstream clearly doesn't particularly care about sane versioning; I don't think it's helpful to get hung up on the versioning scheme and the lack of a formal release here. Regards, Vincent [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748753#45 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
On 28/04/15 12:02, Vincent Cheng wrote: > Hi, > > Now that jessie is out and the freeze is over, would anyone object if > I were to upload xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental to sid > now? 3.0 is supposed to be an "imminent release" [1] anyways. Given that 2.21.x is completely unmaintained, and that the only relevant changes from 2.21.15 to 2.99.901 [1] were SNA enabled by default (which upstream considers ready and which can be reverted anyway) and XMir integration (which we don't care about) I see no reason to withhold this upload any longer. It's not like we're going to release Stretch with 2.21.x again, so the sooner we upload it, the more testing it will get. FWIW I used it for several months without issues. This sounds similar to Grub2 being at 2.02~beta2, or when it was at 1.99 for so long. Cheers, Emilio [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/tree/NEWS?id=2.99.901#n1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 15:28:51 +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:02:37AM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Now that jessie is out and the freeze is over, would anyone object if > > I were to upload xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental to sid > > now? 3.0 is supposed to be an "imminent release" [1] anyways. > > isn't this imminent status given since a year? > Pretty much, yes. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Søren Holm wrote: > Probably, but why keep it in experimental just because the number scheme is a > little bit off. see previous discussions on this mailinglist. once there is a proper release I'm all for it. Ask intel why they don't!? -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
Probably, but why keep it in experimental just because the number scheme is a little bit off. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:02:37AM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote: > Hi, > > Now that jessie is out and the freeze is over, would anyone object if > I were to upload xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental to sid > now? 3.0 is supposed to be an "imminent release" [1] anyways. isn't this imminent status given since a year? -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
No - please do so. I've been using it from experimental since christmas with no issues. Xorg reports this : [ 4.086] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.088] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: [ 4.088] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics: 2000-6000 [ 4.088] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics: 5100, 6100 [ 4.088] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics: 5200, 6200, P6300 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#748753: Upload xxv-intel 2.99.x to sid?
Hi, Now that jessie is out and the freeze is over, would anyone object if I were to upload xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental to sid now? 3.0 is supposed to be an "imminent release" [1] anyways. Regards, Vincent [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2014-December/057900.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: 2:2.99.916+git20141119-1~exp1
Ok. for that its worth I'm currently running 2:2.99.916+git20141119-1~exp1 I do software-development on a daily basis -3D graphics and such. I'll report if stuff fails or locks up. Hopefully thing will be quite stable so we can get it intu "unstable" .. I realy thing the release names a counter intuitive :D -- Søren Holm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: Ubuntu version
I've smade the switch from Ubuntu to Debian and I actually thought that must software in Debian sid was the newer or at least the same version as the Ubuntu version. Does'nt it all matter what the largest Debian deriviate (and probably the larges distributuin) does? -- Søren Holm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753:
On 2 October 2014 10:41, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:24:41 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > >> Jessie gets frozen in 35 days. It would be a shame to see it released >> with buggy Intel GPU drivers that are no longer recommended or >> distributed by upstream. >> > Upstream clearly doesn't recommend anything newer, since the only thing > they've put out in the last year is a pile of git snapshots. Intel is now distributing their own drivers on 01.org - the latest version (2014Q3) includes xf86-video-intel 2.99.911. The recommendation to upgrade to at least 2.99.908 for important bug fixes came directly from their GPU developers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753:
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:24:41 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > Jessie gets frozen in 35 days. It would be a shame to see it released > with buggy Intel GPU drivers that are no longer recommended or > distributed by upstream. > Upstream clearly doesn't recommend anything newer, since the only thing they've put out in the last year is a pile of git snapshots. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#748753:
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:24:41 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > Is there any chance of this being fixed in time for Jessie? Unlikely. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#748753:
Is there any chance of this being fixed in time for Jessie? Jessie gets frozen in 35 days. It would be a shame to see it released with buggy Intel GPU drivers that are no longer recommended or distributed by upstream. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 02:32:56PM -0700, Keshav Kini wrote: > > So can we please have a newer version of xserver-xorg-video-intel in sid > soon? please install the one from experimental for now. -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753:
Hi, Sorry to bump this, but I'm starting to get GPU hangs every couple of days which cause X to restart, killing all my desktop applications without warning. As you can imagine, I would really like this to not happen. I can't say that this behavior is related to the fact that xserver-xorg-video-intel is really old in sid. But when one is having issues with a >6-month-old kernel module being loaded in a 12-day-old kernel (sid is currently on 3.14.7 which was released on June 11 according to http://kernel.org/ ), that's the obvious first suspect... So can we please have a newer version of xserver-xorg-video-intel in sid soon? Thanks, Keshav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: xserver-xorg-video-intel: please update, jessie/sid version 2.21.15 is 9 months old
Hi Michael, Apologies for the 2-week late reply...better late than never, right? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi Vincent, > > Vincent Cheng writes: >> Are you planning to update xserver-xorg-video-intel anytime soon? I'd >> be glad to lend a hand if you're busy at the moment, and upload >> 2.99.911 to sid (or experimental, if there are objections to uploading >> it directly to sid). > I’m unsure if we want to upload random snapshot releases to sid, which > is why I didn’t do that. Feel free to upload it to experimental, though. My rationale for wanting a xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.99.x release in sid (and ultimately in the next stable release) rather than in experimental is mostly due to Nvidia Optimus (since my primary laptop has optimus baked in, and I happen to be bumblebee/primus' maintainer), i.e. - xxv-intel >= 2.99.904 ships with intel-virtual-output (see also #749925) - there's this strange bug that affects UXA in combination with bumblebee + primus [1]; a convenient workaround is to use SNA, which was made the default acceleration method upstream as of >= 2.99.x There's also the fact that Intel is promoting their 2.99.x releases in their graphics stack bundles [2] (presumably because they consider it stable enough). I'd much rather see a 2.99.x release in jessie rather than the rather old package we currently have in jessie/sid today, but it sounds like everyone else currently involved in maintaining xxv-intel disagrees. (Well, in the meantime, I've uploaded xxv-intel to experimental with intel-virtual-output installed + default accel method used.) Regards, Vincent [1] https://github.com/amonakov/primus/issues/126 [2] https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2014/2014q1-intel-graphics-stack-release -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: closed by maximilian attems (Bug#748753: fixed in xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.911+git20140529-1~exp1)
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 17:23:06 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > Yes, I'm not against having a git snapshot for experimental use but it > is not going to fix the issue of the drivers in sid and jessie being 6 > months behind what Intel and Ubuntu are both shipping today. > Intel could also stop labelling their releases as 2.99.9xx if they want us to ship them. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#748753: closed by maximilian attems (Bug#748753: fixed in xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.911+git20140529-1~exp1)
On 30 May 2014 16:28, maximilian attems wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:52:39AM +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: >> > I’m unsure if we want to upload random snapshot releases to sid, which >> > is why I didn’t do that. Feel free to upload it to experimental, though. >> >> I wasn't actually suggesting making a random snapshot of the git >> source from upstream. > > Whatever you personally wish is fine for your own, but may not be for > a distribution. In any case this is still only an experimental upload. > The chosen version is a Maintainers decision and I didn't see you step up > to such responsibility. Maximilian, firstly thank you for your work. I did not mean to sound unappreciative. If it would help, I would be happy to take responsibility for the decision to release video-intel-2.99.910 (or any other version recommended by upstream) to Debian unstable. The problem with putting an update into experimental is that it does not benefit the vast majority of users, who do not have experimental enabled. I did not open this bug just to fix my own personal problem, I opened this bug so that all Debian users with Intel graphics could get the benefit of a newer stack with significant bug fixes and which is being recommended by upstream. The Debian FAQ defines experimental as "packages and tools which are still being developed, and are still in the alpha testing stage. Users shouldn't be using packages from here, because they can be dangerous and harmful even for the most experienced people." imho this is not the appropriate description of a driver that Intel is already shipping as part of their own enablement stack. > A newer snapshot was deemed to have better hardware support thanks > to all fixes piled up in git, both for Haswell and beyond. Yes, I'm not against having a git snapshot for experimental use but it is not going to fix the issue of the drivers in sid and jessie being 6 months behind what Intel and Ubuntu are both shipping today. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: closed by maximilian attems (Bug#748753: fixed in xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.911+git20140529-1~exp1)
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:52:39AM +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > > I’m unsure if we want to upload random snapshot releases to sid, which > > is why I didn’t do that. Feel free to upload it to experimental, though. > > I wasn't actually suggesting making a random snapshot of the git > source from upstream. Whatever you personally wish is fine for your own, but may not be for a distribution. In any case this is still only an experimental upload. The chosen version is a Maintainers decision and I didn't see you step up to such responsibility. > The latest stable release from Intel is 2014Q1 > which includes video-intel-2.99.910. Yes, it is a snapshot, but it is > not a random one - it is the same one being used by Intel in the > stable 1.0.5 release of their official Intel Graphics Installer. If it > is good enough for Intel to use in a stable release of their graphics > installer, then imho it ought to be good enough for Debian > Unstable/Testing. 2.99.910 is also the version used in Ubuntu 14.04, > which means it has already received much wider testing than any > possible alternative snapshot. A newer snapshot was deemed to have better hardware support thanks to all fixes piled up in git, both for Haswell and beyond. kind regards, -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: closed by maximilian attems (Bug#748753: fixed in xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.911+git20140529-1~exp1)
> I’m unsure if we want to upload random snapshot releases to sid, which > is why I didn’t do that. Feel free to upload it to experimental, though. I wasn't actually suggesting making a random snapshot of the git source from upstream. The latest stable release from Intel is 2014Q1 which includes video-intel-2.99.910. Yes, it is a snapshot, but it is not a random one - it is the same one being used by Intel in the stable 1.0.5 release of their official Intel Graphics Installer. If it is good enough for Intel to use in a stable release of their graphics installer, then imho it ought to be good enough for Debian Unstable/Testing. 2.99.910 is also the version used in Ubuntu 14.04, which means it has already received much wider testing than any possible alternative snapshot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: xserver-xorg-video-intel: please update, jessie/sid version 2.21.15 is 9 months old
Hi Vincent, Vincent Cheng writes: > Are you planning to update xserver-xorg-video-intel anytime soon? I'd > be glad to lend a hand if you're busy at the moment, and upload > 2.99.911 to sid (or experimental, if there are objections to uploading > it directly to sid). I’m unsure if we want to upload random snapshot releases to sid, which is why I didn’t do that. Feel free to upload it to experimental, though. -- Best regards, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: xserver-xorg-video-intel: please update, jessie/sid version 2.21.15 is 9 months old
Hi Michael, Are you planning to update xserver-xorg-video-intel anytime soon? I'd be glad to lend a hand if you're busy at the moment, and upload 2.99.911 to sid (or experimental, if there are objections to uploading it directly to sid). Regards, Vincent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#748753: xserver-xorg-video-intel: please update, jessie/sid version 2.21.15 is 9 months old
Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel Version: 2:2.21.15-2+b1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, Please release an updated version of xserver-xorg-video-intel. The latest version in Debian is 2.21.15, which was released by upstream 9 months ago. Since then there have been many bug fixes and performance improvements. (The latest release of the Intel Graphics Stack from 01.org is 2014Q1, which includes video-intel-2.99.910, upstream recommends upgrading to at least 2.99.908 for bug fixes). -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers testing-updates APT policy: (500, 'testing-updates'), (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_GB.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages xserver-xorg-video-intel depends on: ii libc6 2.18-5 ii libdrm-intel1 2.4.54-1 ii libdrm22.4.54-1 ii libpciaccess0 0.13.2-1 ii libpixman-1-0 0.32.4-1 ii libudev1 204-8 ii libx11-6 2:1.6.2-1 ii libx11-xcb12:1.6.2-1 ii libxcb-dri2-0 1.10-2 ii libxcb-util0 0.3.8-2 ii libxcb11.10-2 ii libxv1 2:1.0.10-1 ii libxvmc1 2:1.0.8-1 ii xserver-xorg-core [xorg-video-abi-15] 2:1.15.1-1 xserver-xorg-video-intel recommends no packages. xserver-xorg-video-intel suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
