Bug#775797: bugs.debian.org: BTS doesn't know about BPO versions; breaks apt-listbugs

2018-12-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:17:33AM -0500, Samuel Bronson wrote:
> > It would be nice if you could process those changelogs, even if only
> > for apt-listbugs' benefit.
> 
> I heard a second-hand report today that this was deliberately not being
> done on the grounds that some package maintainers don't want bugs
> against backports to be filed in the BTS.  I found the link to version
> tracking in particular to be surprising, and I want to check that there
> isn't a degree of "telephone game" happening here.

From my perspective, I think we should be tracking the versioning of
backport packages in the BTS; the only real reason I haven't done so is
because I've lacked the time to drive the coordination required to move
copy the .debinfo and .versions files from the backports archive, and
make sure all of that is working.

So if you do have the time to do so, that would be great.

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Bug#775797: bugs.debian.org: BTS doesn't know about BPO versions; breaks apt-listbugs

2018-11-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:17:33AM -0500, Samuel Bronson wrote:
> As you know, bugs.debian.org doesn't eat the backport changelogs, so
> it has no idea about what bugs might be present in any given BPO
> version of a package.  Even when those bugs are merely inherited from
> the backported version of the package.
> 
> Consequently, apt-listbugs will, at best, be able to find out about
> bugs in backports if they were reported as found in that exact
> backport version of the package -- which, if the reporter followed the
> backports documentation, wouldn't even exist.
> 
> It would be nice if you could process those changelogs, even if only
> for apt-listbugs' benefit.

I heard a second-hand report today that this was deliberately not being
done on the grounds that some package maintainers don't want bugs
against backports to be filed in the BTS.  I found the link to version
tracking in particular to be surprising, and I want to check that there
isn't a degree of "telephone game" happening here.

My intent in sending this email isn't to rehash that particular
argument, which I know has gone back and forward a fair bit.  There's a
separate bug (https://bugs.debian.org/897934) for some of the problems
that would perhaps make it more palatable for backports bugs to be
handled in the BTS.

However, leaving that aside: is there any reason for that debate to
block BTS tracking of backports versions in particular?  Samuel makes a
good argument here that this would be useful from the point of view of
users of backports, and I can well imagine that it would also be helpful
for package maintainers who also maintain the corresponding backports.
I find it improbable that simply fleshing out the version graph a bit
more would result in a significant increase of bug reports against
backports.

If I were a more active BTS admin then TBH I'd be inclined to just do
this, but since I'm pretty inactive I thought it best to ask around.

-- 
Colin Watson   [cjwat...@debian.org]



Bug#775797: bugs.debian.org: BTS doesn't know about BPO versions; breaks apt-listbugs

2015-01-19 Thread Samuel Bronson
Package: bugs.debian.org
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

As you know, bugs.debian.org doesn't eat the backport changelogs, so
it has no idea about what bugs might be present in any given BPO
version of a package.  Even when those bugs are merely inherited from
the backported version of the package.

Consequently, apt-listbugs will, at best, be able to find out about
bugs in backports if they were reported as found in that exact
backport version of the package -- which, if the reporter followed the
backports documentation, wouldn't even exist.

It would be nice if you could process those changelogs, even if only
for apt-listbugs' benefit.

(Better if you could also actually send bugs reported against BPO
versions to the right place, but AIUI there is no clear definition of
where that is.)

Bug #45 / Bug #544726 is probably a bit more urgent, though...

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