Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
Le dim. 18 août 2019 à 14:15, Laurent Bigonville a écrit : > > Package: src:samba > Followup-For: Bug #781913 > > Hi, > > samba 4.10 is apparently supporting python3 > > Are there any plans to upload that soon? Yes. Work has already started. I plan to finish this during August. > Not that ubuntu already did the work apparently I know. Regards -- Mathieu Paren
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On Sat, 2017-10-14 at 20:40 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Control: clone 781913 -1 > Control: retitle -1 please drop dependency on python-talloc from samba-libs > Control: affects -1 + mpd > > On Sat 2015-04-04 22:10:14 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > On 04/04/2015 08:47 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > > So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that > > > is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on > > > python2 in samba-libs. > > > > right, that would get rid off python libs and python-talloc. However there > > is > > another path in that nautilus-share depends on samba-common | > > samba-common-bin, > > which depend on python-samba. > > Please don't block fixing this python2 dependency of samba-libs on > fixing the other python2 issues in samba-common and samba-common-bin. > there are other packages (e.g. mpd) that Depend: samba-libs and do not > have this additional dependency. > > Fixing the dependency of samba-libs on python-talloc in its own right > would be a win for minimal systems that run mpd but don't want to carry > around an unnecessary python interpreter. Even this is a significant amount of work. The challenge with splitting up samba-libs is that there are a lot of libraries which depend on each other. Early Samba4 packages did split things into one package per library, but it became unmanagable. One possible approach would be to create a samba-base-libs which contains the things libsmbclient depends on, which hopefully does not include python-talloc. The alternate, removing just the python dependency from samba-libs would require more work I think, plus removing or re-structuring the code in source4/libnet/provision.c that calls into python (rather than python calling Samba, which is otherwise the pattern). I hope this helps. I do need to make clear that we need significant help if you wish to see progress here, plus work may be needed upstream to change the libraries the build system produces. On the hopeful side, upstream Samba did merge patches to allow a build without linking to python recently. Thanks! Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Catalyst IT http://catalyst.net.nz/services/samba
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
Control: clone 781913 -1 Control: retitle -1 please drop dependency on python-talloc from samba-libs Control: affects -1 + mpd On Sat 2015-04-04 22:10:14 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 04/04/2015 08:47 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: >> So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that >> is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on >> python2 in samba-libs. > > right, that would get rid off python libs and python-talloc. However there is > another path in that nautilus-share depends on samba-common | > samba-common-bin, > which depend on python-samba. Please don't block fixing this python2 dependency of samba-libs on fixing the other python2 issues in samba-common and samba-common-bin. there are other packages (e.g. mpd) that Depend: samba-libs and do not have this additional dependency. Fixing the dependency of samba-libs on python-talloc in its own right would be a win for minimal systems that run mpd but don't want to carry around an unnecessary python interpreter. Thanks for maintaining samba in debian! Regards, --dkg signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 06:11:09PM +0100, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > Now, with: > > Description: Nautilus extension to share folder using Samba > > Nautilus Share allows you to quickly share a folder from > > the GNOME Nautilus file manager without requiring root access. > > it requires samba to work, so the package installs samba before running > > anything. I still have to find out why it needs to run these two commands > > before > > installing samba anyway. > Ah, of course. Why does it not have a hard dependency on Samba > in that case? It seems like sharing folders over SMB is impossible > without the server. To reduce the size of the dependencies pulled in by default on the desktop before these are needed. This is a desktop sharing mechanism that's made available by default, but we don't want the samba server installed (and therefore enabled) by default on the desktop. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 06:53:52PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 04/04/2015 10:14 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:10:14PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > >> On 04/04/2015 08:47 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > >>> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 04/04/2015 07:40 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > >> Package: src:samba > >> Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 > >> > >> please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them > > > > There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large > > effort, and as > > upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. > > > > What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are > > alternatives. > > I was looking what is keeping Python2 on the Ubuntu desktop. For the > samba > bindings this is system-config-printer depending on gvfs-backends, > depending on > samba-libs. > >>> > >>> I think getting rid of the Python dependency in samba-libs is a much > >>> easier to achieve goal here. > >>> > >>> AFAICT The only reason that samba-libs depends on python is because > >>> libsamba-net can do provisioning of a local DC (requires the 'samba' > >>> package to be installed) by invoking the provision script using Python. > >>> > >>> So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that > >>> is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on > >>> python2 in samba-libs. > >> > >> right, that would get rid off python libs and python-talloc. However > >> there is > >> another path in that nautilus-share depends on samba-common | > >> samba-common-bin, > >> which depend on python-samba. > >> > >> and > >> $ reverse-depends nautilus-share > >> Reverse-Recommends > >> == > >> * ubuntu-desktop > >> * ubuntu-gnome-desktop > >> * ubuntukylin-desktop > > > > What does it need that dependency for? I would imagine it just uses > > libsmbclient. > > it doesn't use libsmbclient, it uses the > > net usershare > > and > > testparm -s --parameter-name='usershare allow guests > > commands. > > Now, with: > > Description: Nautilus extension to share folder using Samba > Nautilus Share allows you to quickly share a folder from > the GNOME Nautilus file manager without requiring root access. > > it requires samba to work, so the package installs samba before running > anything. I still have to find out why it needs to run these two commands > before > installing samba anyway. Ah, of course. Why does it not have a hard dependency on Samba in that case? It seems like sharing folders over SMB is impossible without the server. Jelmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On 04/04/2015 10:14 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:10:14PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 08:47 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: On 04/04/2015 07:40 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> Package: src:samba >> Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 >> >> please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them > > There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large effort, > and as > upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. > > What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are alternatives. I was looking what is keeping Python2 on the Ubuntu desktop. For the samba bindings this is system-config-printer depending on gvfs-backends, depending on samba-libs. >>> >>> I think getting rid of the Python dependency in samba-libs is a much >>> easier to achieve goal here. >>> >>> AFAICT The only reason that samba-libs depends on python is because >>> libsamba-net can do provisioning of a local DC (requires the 'samba' >>> package to be installed) by invoking the provision script using Python. >>> >>> So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that >>> is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on >>> python2 in samba-libs. >> >> right, that would get rid off python libs and python-talloc. However there >> is >> another path in that nautilus-share depends on samba-common | >> samba-common-bin, >> which depend on python-samba. >> >> and >> $ reverse-depends nautilus-share >> Reverse-Recommends >> == >> * ubuntu-desktop >> * ubuntu-gnome-desktop >> * ubuntukylin-desktop > > What does it need that dependency for? I would imagine it just uses > libsmbclient. it doesn't use libsmbclient, it uses the net usershare and testparm -s --parameter-name='usershare allow guests commands. Now, with: Description: Nautilus extension to share folder using Samba Nautilus Share allows you to quickly share a folder from the GNOME Nautilus file manager without requiring root access. it requires samba to work, so the package installs samba before running anything. I still have to find out why it needs to run these two commands before installing samba anyway. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:10:14PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 04/04/2015 08:47 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > >> On 04/04/2015 07:40 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > >>> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Package: src:samba > Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 > > please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them > >>> > >>> There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large effort, > >>> and as > >>> upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. > >>> > >>> What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are alternatives. > >> > >> I was looking what is keeping Python2 on the Ubuntu desktop. For the samba > >> bindings this is system-config-printer depending on gvfs-backends, > >> depending on > >> samba-libs. > > > > I think getting rid of the Python dependency in samba-libs is a much > > easier to achieve goal here. > > > > AFAICT The only reason that samba-libs depends on python is because > > libsamba-net can do provisioning of a local DC (requires the 'samba' > > package to be installed) by invoking the provision script using Python. > > > > So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that > > is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on > > python2 in samba-libs. > > right, that would get rid off python libs and python-talloc. However there is > another path in that nautilus-share depends on samba-common | > samba-common-bin, > which depend on python-samba. > > and > $ reverse-depends nautilus-share > Reverse-Recommends > == > * ubuntu-desktop > * ubuntu-gnome-desktop > * ubuntukylin-desktop What does it need that dependency for? I would imagine it just uses libsmbclient. Cheers, Jelmer -- Jelmer Vernooij Debian Developer https://jelmer.uk/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On 04/04/2015 08:47 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 07:40 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Package: src:samba Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them >>> >>> There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large effort, >>> and as >>> upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. >>> >>> What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are alternatives. >> >> I was looking what is keeping Python2 on the Ubuntu desktop. For the samba >> bindings this is system-config-printer depending on gvfs-backends, depending >> on >> samba-libs. > > I think getting rid of the Python dependency in samba-libs is a much > easier to achieve goal here. > > AFAICT The only reason that samba-libs depends on python is because > libsamba-net can do provisioning of a local DC (requires the 'samba' > package to be installed) by invoking the provision script using Python. > > So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that > is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on > python2 in samba-libs. right, that would get rid off python libs and python-talloc. However there is another path in that nautilus-share depends on samba-common | samba-common-bin, which depend on python-samba. and $ reverse-depends nautilus-share Reverse-Recommends == * ubuntu-desktop * ubuntu-gnome-desktop * ubuntukylin-desktop Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:03:19PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 04/04/2015 07:40 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > >> Package: src:samba > >> Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 > >> > >> please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them > > > > There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large effort, > > and as > > upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. > > > > What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are alternatives. > > I was looking what is keeping Python2 on the Ubuntu desktop. For the samba > bindings this is system-config-printer depending on gvfs-backends, depending > on > samba-libs. I think getting rid of the Python dependency in samba-libs is a much easier to achieve goal here. AFAICT The only reason that samba-libs depends on python is because libsamba-net can do provisioning of a local DC (requires the 'samba' package to be installed) by invoking the provision script using Python. So if we could move that functionality out to a separate library that is not included with samba-libs, we could drop the dependency on python2 in samba-libs. Jelmer -- Jelmer Vernooij Debian Developer https://jelmer.uk/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On 04/04/2015 07:40 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> Package: src:samba >> Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 >> >> please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them > > There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large effort, and > as > upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. > > What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are alternatives. I was looking what is keeping Python2 on the Ubuntu desktop. For the samba bindings this is system-config-printer depending on gvfs-backends, depending on samba-libs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#781913: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#781913: please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Package: src:samba > Version: 2:4.1.13+dfsg-4 > > please build bindings for Python3 and let samba-common-bin use them There are no Python3 bindings for Samba. Porting will be a large effort, and as upstream we don't want to maintain support for two Python versions. What do you need the Python3 bindings for? Perhaps there are alternatives. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
