Bug#787430: Please provide udeb of libncursesw5

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2015-06-02 10:47 +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote:

 Hello Sven Joachim.

 Thanks for your quick and very useful reply.

 On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 09:10:17PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2015-06-01 18:55 +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
 [...]
  Since util-linux builds tools used by the debian installer and thus
  provides udebs, all dependencies will also need to provide udebs.
 
 AFAIK the only affected program would be cfdisk, or is there any other
 program in util-linux which currently uses slang?

 Only cfdisk-udeb.

  Thus, please provide an udeb for libncursesw5 (and in turn libtinfo5).
 
 I'm not too keen on doing that.  Have you asked on debian-boot about
 their opinion?  Last time the issue came up, just dropping cfdisk-udeb
 was among the proposals[1].

 My attempts at poking the installer people have not resulted in
 any useful feedback. Given that we're now early in the cycle
 I'm willing to just go with something and wait for the installer
 people to scream if I broke something, and then fix it.

 Thanks for your historic reference, which I was not aware of.
 Maybe dropping cfdisk-udeb is an ok solution...

 [...]
 _If_ we are to build udebs from ncurses, I gladly accept patches, but I
 would like to avoid that if possible.

 Sounds like you're not totally opposed to it then. How about the following
 plan:

 I send a mail to debian-boot suggesting dropping cfdisk-udeb. If noone
 says anything I'll follow up with uploading such a package.

 If there are backlashes, we'll handle it by adding the udeb to ncursesw5
 and reenabling cfdisk-udeb (now built against ncursesw5).

 Does that sound ok to you?

Yes, I'm fine with that plan.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Bug#787430: Please provide udeb of libncursesw5

2015-06-02 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello Sven Joachim.

Thanks for your quick and very useful reply.

On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 09:10:17PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2015-06-01 18:55 +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
[...]
  Since util-linux builds tools used by the debian installer and thus
  provides udebs, all dependencies will also need to provide udebs.
 
 AFAIK the only affected program would be cfdisk, or is there any other
 program in util-linux which currently uses slang?

Only cfdisk-udeb.

  Thus, please provide an udeb for libncursesw5 (and in turn libtinfo5).
 
 I'm not too keen on doing that.  Have you asked on debian-boot about
 their opinion?  Last time the issue came up, just dropping cfdisk-udeb
 was among the proposals[1].

My attempts at poking the installer people have not resulted in
any useful feedback. Given that we're now early in the cycle
I'm willing to just go with something and wait for the installer
people to scream if I broke something, and then fix it.

Thanks for your historic reference, which I was not aware of.
Maybe dropping cfdisk-udeb is an ok solution...

[...]
 _If_ we are to build udebs from ncurses, I gladly accept patches, but I
 would like to avoid that if possible.

Sounds like you're not totally opposed to it then. How about the following
plan:

I send a mail to debian-boot suggesting dropping cfdisk-udeb. If noone
says anything I'll follow up with uploading such a package.

If there are backlashes, we'll handle it by adding the udeb to ncursesw5
and reenabling cfdisk-udeb (now built against ncursesw5).

Does that sound ok to you?

 
 Cheers,
Sven
 
 
 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/02/msg00990.html
 

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson


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Bug#787430: Please provide udeb of libncursesw5

2015-06-01 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Package: ncurses
Version: 5.9+20150516-2
Severity: wishlist

Hello!

I'm planning on switching src:util-linux from using slang to using
ncurses(w), since that is the upstream recommended and supported
build option.

Since util-linux builds tools used by the debian installer and thus
provides udebs, all dependencies will also need to provide udebs.

Thus, please provide an udeb for libncursesw5 (and in turn libtinfo5).

Apart from the added packages which means you'll need to go through
the NEW queue, the added overhead is the maintenance of a shlibs file
(as udebs does not handle debian/*.symbols) which needs the mentioned
version bumped every time a change is done to the corresponding symbols
file. Except from a few special fields in debian/control the only real
difference between the real package and the udeb is that you drop
usr/share/doc from the package content.

I'd like to move forward on this as soon as possible.
If you'd like me to provide patches, please tell me!

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson


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Bug#787430: Please provide udeb of libncursesw5

2015-06-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2015-06-01 18:55 +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote:

 Package: ncurses
 Version: 5.9+20150516-2
 Severity: wishlist

 Hello!

 I'm planning on switching src:util-linux from using slang to using
 ncurses(w), since that is the upstream recommended and supported
 build option.

 Since util-linux builds tools used by the debian installer and thus
 provides udebs, all dependencies will also need to provide udebs.

AFAIK the only affected program would be cfdisk, or is there any other
program in util-linux which currently uses slang?

 Thus, please provide an udeb for libncursesw5 (and in turn libtinfo5).

I'm not too keen on doing that.  Have you asked on debian-boot about
their opinion?  Last time the issue came up, just dropping cfdisk-udeb
was among the proposals[1].

 Apart from the added packages which means you'll need to go through
 the NEW queue, the added overhead is the maintenance of a shlibs file
 (as udebs does not handle debian/*.symbols) which needs the mentioned
 version bumped every time a change is done to the corresponding symbols
 file. Except from a few special fields in debian/control the only real
 difference between the real package and the udeb is that you drop
 usr/share/doc from the package content.

 I'd like to move forward on this as soon as possible.
 If you'd like me to provide patches, please tell me!

_If_ we are to build udebs from ncurses, I gladly accept patches, but I
would like to avoid that if possible.

Cheers,
   Sven


1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/02/msg00990.html


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