Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[HAYASHI Kentaro]

On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 02:09:35 +0900 d...@debian.org wrote:
> Please restart ITP process and re-upload this with removal of overriding
> for pedantic tags.

I've removed pedantic tags and uploaded again.

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/h/hal-flash/hal-flash_0.3.3-1.dsc

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[dai]

Please restart ITP process and re-upload this with removal of overriding
for pedantic tags.
-- 
Regards,
dai

GPG Fingerprint = 0B29 D88E 42E6 B765 B8D8 EA50 7839 619D D439 668E


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[Gianfranco Costamagna]

Hi,


>Personally, I would remove Flash from my system entirely and use HTML5>video 
>or when that isn't available, run youtube-dl, get-flash-videos,
>cclive or similar on the command-line. Some desktop video players can
>also use these to play video from the web.


I also hate flash, for many many and many reasons (including making my browser 
crash back some years
ago).

*but* the fact that Debian stops shipping flash, won't help much the world in 
faster deprecating
it, will just annoy some end users more and more.

I personally believe in free software, but the real world isn't so ideal, and 
while I don't
use flash anymore since some years (android helped here, sometimes I use an 
agent overrider on my firefox,
and the website shows me the android flash-free version), I can argue that 
somebody could use it.

So, my opinion is that it has some reasons to exist on Debian, even if probably 
I won't ever use it.

cheers,

G.

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[Paul Wise]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:43 PM, HAYASHI Kentaro wrote:

> If so, something like hal-compat software exists, (it also provides HAL
>  compatibility layer which is similar to hal-flash, but it does not
>  refer about flash DRM at all even though mainly used for it) -
> does it acceptable for debian or not? I don't know well.

hal is obsolete software and at this point anything that is FLOSS will
have been ported to udev/udisks/upower/etc. The only things that still
use hal will be unmaintained proprietary software and most proprietary
software won't have needed hal in the first place, so probably the
only software that could make use of hal-compat is the Flash DRM
stuff.

> Should I stop ITP process at once?

That is up to you.

Personally, I would remove Flash from my system entirely and use HTML5
video or when that isn't available, run youtube-dl, get-flash-videos,
cclive or similar on the command-line. Some desktop video players can
also use these to play video from the web.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[HAYASHI Kentaro]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:43 +0900 d...@debian.org wrote:
> lintian(1) says:
> 
> | Adding overrides for pedantic tags is probably not worth the effort.

Oh, I have overlooked it. Thank you for your feedback.
I'd been just convinced that "I should fix it" at that time.

> BTW, I hesitate to upload this package because of pabs' suggetion.
> We need to build consensus.

Hmm,

1. hal-flash itself is evil, so not acceptable for debian
2. there is no problem hal-flash itself, but not acceptable for debian
   because it helps playback of DRM contents

I guess that the concern is derived from 2., is it correct?

If so, something like hal-compat software exists, (it also provides HAL
 compatibility layer which is similar to hal-flash, but it does not
 refer about flash DRM at all even though mainly used for it) - 
does it acceptable for debian or not? I don't know well.

Should I stop ITP process at once?

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[dai]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 05:47:23PM +0900, HAYASHI Kentaro wrote:
> > I think there is no need to suppress pedantic reports.
> 
> Maybe, but I think that it is a good manner to treat it explicitly.

lintian(1) says:

| Adding overrides for pedantic tags is probably not worth the effort.

BTW, I hesitate to upload this package because of pabs' suggetion.
We need to build consensus.
-- 
Regards,
dai

GPG Fingerprint = 0B29 D88E 42E6 B765 B8D8 EA50 7839 619D D439 668E


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[HAYASHI Kentaro]

Hi,

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:46:35 +0800 Paul Wise  wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:20 AM, HAYASHI Kentaro wrote:
> 
> >   libhal1-flash - Compatibility library to allow playback of Flash DRM 
> > content
> 
> Since flash is dying and most of the web video has dropped it at this
> point I suggest not putting this in Debian, especially since it is
> solely for DRM, which is against Debian and Free Software community
> principles.

I agree with the fact that flash is dying. But it is not dead completely yet.
And most important point about libhal1-flash is providing HAL stubs layer
 by using UDisks (successor of HAL) for ancient software which still uses HAL.

Regards,

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[HAYASHI Kentaro]

Hi, Thank you for your feedback.

I've uploaded fixed version here.
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/h/hal-flash/hal-flash_0.3.3-1.dsc

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:28:03 +0900 d...@debian.org wrote:
> >   * debian/control
> 
> - Maintainer:
> 
> Does he agree to be the Debian official maintainer for this package?
> Aren't YOU the Debian official maintainer for it?

You are right, I've fixed Maintainer: field.

> - #Vcs-Git:
> - #Vcs-Browser:
> 
> Please remove template.

I've removed it.

> - Suggests: 
> 
> There is no package named flashplugin-installer in Debian.
> 

I've fixed it to flashplugin-nonfree.

> >   * debian/rules
> 
> Please remove sample comment header.

I've removed it.

> >   * debian/libhal1-flash.lintian-overrides
> > - Suppress pedantic lintian reports
> >   * debian/source.lintian-overrides
> > - Suppress pedantic gpg signature lintian report
> 
> I think there is no need to suppress pedantic reports.

Maybe, but I think that it is a good manner to treat it explicitly.

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:20 AM, HAYASHI Kentaro wrote:

>   libhal1-flash - Compatibility library to allow playback of Flash DRM content

Since flash is dying and most of the web video has dropped it at this
point I suggest not putting this in Debian, especially since it is
solely for DRM, which is against Debian and Free Software community
principles.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[dai]

>   * debian/control

- Maintainer:

Does he agree to be the Debian official maintainer for this package?
Aren't YOU the Debian official maintainer for it?

- #Vcs-Git:
- #Vcs-Browser:

Please remove template.

- Suggests: 

There is no package named flashplugin-installer in Debian.

>   * debian/rules

Please remove sample comment header.

>   * debian/libhal1-flash.lintian-overrides
> - Suppress pedantic lintian reports
>   * debian/source.lintian-overrides
> - Suppress pedantic gpg signature lintian report

I think there is no need to suppress pedantic reports.
-- 
Regards,
dai

GPG Fingerprint = 0B29 D88E 42E6 B765 B8D8 EA50 7839 619D D439 668E


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Bug#818184: RFS: hal-flash/0.3.3-1 [ITP]

[HAYASHI Kentaro]

Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: normal [wishlist]

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package "hal-flash"

* Package name: hal-flash
* Version : 0.3.3-1
* Upstream Author : Christopher Horler 
* URL : https://github.com/cshorler/hal-flash
* License : GPL-2+ or AFL-2.1
* Section : libs

It builds those binary packages:

  libhal1-flash - Compatibility library to allow playback of Flash DRM content

To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/hal-flash

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/h/hal-flash/hal-flash_0.3.3-1.dsc

More information about hello can be obtained from 
https://github.com/cshorler/hal-flash

Changes since the last upload:

hal-flash (0.3.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Initial upload to unstable (Closes: #818167)
  * debian/source/format
- Use quilt format.
  * debian/control
- Update standards-version to 3.9.7
- Use hal-flash as a source package name
  * debian/watch
- Add watch file
  * debian/rules
- Apply hardening=+all
  * debian/libhal1-flash.lintian-overrides
- Suppress pedantic lintian reports
  * debian/source.lintian-overrides
- Suppress pedantic gpg signature lintian report
  * debian/libhal1-flash.symbols
- Add symbols control file

Regards,