Bug#825833: libkms
On 07/16/16 at 09:46pm, Julien Cristau wrote: > Where can I see that code? Why can't it use libdrm directly? > "embedded" is not an explanation. kmssink in upstream has done that [1] so this action is not required anymore. Thus I'm closing the bug. 1. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad/commit/?id=12e82aac28d0467844233f3cbc9d8ae7c08cd05c
Bug#825833: libkms
On 07/16/16 at 09:46pm, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:20:12 +0200, Víctor M. Jáquez L. wrote: > > > On 07/15/16 at 10:33pm, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 18:46:32 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > > > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is explicitely > > > > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no more > > > > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > > > > > > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made ? > > > > > > > libkms wasn't used/useful then, I'd need some convincing to re-enable > > > it. > > > > Perhaps it won't be useful in desktop systems or servers, but, as far as I > > see, it is useful in embedded, if you want to draw without any display > > server. > > > > But I agree, I only have one modest example: kmssink, a simple GStreamer > > video > > sink, targeted precisely to embedded systems. > > > Where can I see that code? Why can't it use libdrm directly? > "embedded" is not an explanation. Here's the code of gstkmssink https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad/tree/sys/kms libkms API is used mostly by the buffer allocator: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad/tree/sys/kms/gstkmsallocator.c vmjl
Bug#825833: libkms
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:20:12 +0200, Víctor M. Jáquez L. wrote: > On 07/15/16 at 10:33pm, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 18:46:32 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is explicitely > > > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no more > > > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > > > > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made ? > > > > > libkms wasn't used/useful then, I'd need some convincing to re-enable > > it. > > Perhaps it won't be useful in desktop systems or servers, but, as far as I > see, it is useful in embedded, if you want to draw without any display > server. > > But I agree, I only have one modest example: kmssink, a simple GStreamer video > sink, targeted precisely to embedded systems. > Where can I see that code? Why can't it use libdrm directly? "embedded" is not an explanation. Cheers, Julien
Bug#825833: libkms
On 07/15/16 at 10:33pm, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 18:46:32 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > > > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is explicitely > > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no more > > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made ? > > > libkms wasn't used/useful then, I'd need some convincing to re-enable > it. Perhaps it won't be useful in desktop systems or servers, but, as far as I see, it is useful in embedded, if you want to draw without any display server. But I agree, I only have one modest example: kmssink, a simple GStreamer video sink, targeted precisely to embedded systems. Recently I ended up installing Fedora because it ships libkms. Thanks vmjl signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#825833: libkms
Well, the fact that it's enabled by default upstream, and that at least one very recent piece of software requires it could weight a bit :) - Mail original - > De: "Julien Cristau" <jcris...@debian.org> > À: ydir...@free.fr, 825...@bugs.debian.org > Cc: 825833-submit...@bugs.debian.org > Envoyé: Vendredi 15 Juillet 2016 22:33:41 > Objet: Re: Bug#825833: libkms > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 18:46:32 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > > > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is > > explicitely > > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no > > more > > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made > > ? > > > libkms wasn't used/useful then, I'd need some convincing to re-enable > it. > > Cheers, > Julien >
Bug#825833: libkms
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 18:46:32 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is explicitely > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no more > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made ? > libkms wasn't used/useful then, I'd need some convincing to re-enable it. Cheers, Julien
Bug#825833: libkms
- Mail original - > De: "Sven Joachim" <svenj...@gmx.de> > À: ydir...@free.fr > Cc: 825...@bugs.debian.org, 825833-submit...@bugs.debian.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 6 Juillet 2016 19:14:41 > Objet: Re: Bug#825833: libkms > > On 2016-07-06 18:46 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > > > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is > > explicitely > > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no > > more > > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made > > ? > > It seems libkms was considered deprecated in bug #684593[1], but at > least Fedora, Mageia and Archlinux continue to ship it. Well, I'd think we could wait for upstream to disable it by default before stopping to ship it. >From my drm-beginner point of view at least, libkms seems a much more friendly option than ioctl'ing for buffer management :)
Bug#825833: libkms
On 2016-07-06 18:46 +0200, ydir...@free.fr wrote: > In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is explicitely > disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no more > information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. > > Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made ? It seems libkms was considered deprecated in bug #684593[1], but at least Fedora, Mageia and Archlinux continue to ship it. Cheers, Sven 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=684593#36
Bug#825833: libkms
In fact, it looks like libkms was built in the past, but is explicitely disabled now. There is probably a reason for this, but there is no more information than that in the changelog, and no README.Debian. Could we please have more insight about why this decision was made ? best regards, -- Yann
