Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
Hey, On 29/08/16 18:39, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 04:25:10PM +0200, Tomasz Nitecki wrote: >> Adrian, the reason why usbmount is not showing up, is a 1 year time >> limit counted from the date of removal (line 90 at [1]). > > if it stays that way, it should be documented in the manpage. I agree. If I leave any time limitation for this opportunity type, I will add an appropriate information to the manpage. >> > > So the benefit of the one-year limit is not really big. > > A few hundred lines more or less in "how-can-i-help --all --old" > output wouldn't make a difference. > > "--all --old" is atually much less useful when it is incomplete. > > And the output of "how-can-i-help --old" (without --all) should really > list *all* packages I have installed that are in unstable but not in > testing. Currently I am getting 17 packages under "removed from testing" > on my computer, but any packages (no matter whether I installed them > recently or many years ago) that were remove from testing more than > a year ago are not shown. I gave it some though, and I also agree. I will check if this won't affect the dump generation time and if it's ok, I'll just remove the limit altogether. Regards, T. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 04:25:10PM +0200, Tomasz Nitecki wrote: > Hey, Hi Tomasz, >... > Adrian, the reason why usbmount is not showing up, is a 1 year time > limit counted from the date of removal (line 90 at [1]). if it stays that way, it should be documented in the manpage. > Since usbmount > was removed from testing on 2015.06.04, it is no longer being shown. I'm > open for a discussion, if you feel that the 1 year limit is too low. I am especially interested in packages that are in stable but not in testing, and usbmount is in stable. > Current numbers for different time limits (for removed from testing): > > limit / source / packages > 1y / 1011 / 2452 > 2y / 1148 / 2797 > 3y / 1245 / 3026 So the benefit of the one-year limit is not really big. A few hundred lines more or less in "how-can-i-help --all --old" output wouldn't make a difference. "--all --old" is atually much less useful when it is incomplete. And the output of "how-can-i-help --old" (without --all) should really list *all* packages I have installed that are in unstable but not in testing. Currently I am getting 17 packages under "removed from testing" on my computer, but any packages (no matter whether I installed them recently or many years ago) that were remove from testing more than a year ago are not shown. A good example: A package on my system that was removed from testing in 2013: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/devtodo Since March 2015 (sic) there's a debdiff fixing both RC bugs in #779551 > Regards, > T. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
Hey, On 28/08/16 19:12, Nicolas Braud-Santoni wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 07:41:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> You are searching for the problem at the wrong place: >> >> $ wget https://udd.debian.org/how-can-i-help.json.gz >> ... >> $ zgrep usbmount how-can-i-help.json.gz >> $ > > Looks like it. > > At that point, it looks like it is a legit how-can-i-help bug, > and I don't even know where the server-side code lives. > > I guess we can wait for Tomasz (the maintainer) to chime in. Nicolas, the server code that generates that gzipped json file is available at UDD git repository [1]. It's a simple ruby script, so feel free to improve it (look at [2] and [3] for directions) :) Adrian, the reason why usbmount is not showing up, is a 1 year time limit counted from the date of removal (line 90 at [1]). Since usbmount was removed from testing on 2015.06.04, it is no longer being shown. I'm open for a discussion, if you feel that the 1 year limit is too low. Current numbers for different time limits (for removed from testing): limit / source / packages 1y / 1011 / 2452 2y / 1148 / 2797 3y / 1245 / 3026 Regards, T. [1] https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-qa/udd.git/tree/scripts/generate-how-can-i-help [2] https://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase [3] https://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase/Hacking signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 07:41:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 06:18:20PM +0200, Nicolas Braud-Santoni wrote: > > Could you send here the output of `apt-cache policy usbmount` and > > `cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` ? > [...] Thanks. I was able to reproduce the issue on my local system (Stretch, with Sid packages available). > You are searching for the problem at the wrong place: > > $ wget https://udd.debian.org/how-can-i-help.json.gz > ... > $ zgrep usbmount how-can-i-help.json.gz > $ Looks like it. At that point, it looks like it is a legit how-can-i-help bug, and I don't even know where the server-side code lives. I guess we can wait for Tomasz (the maintainer) to chime in. Best, nicoo signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 06:18:20PM +0200, Nicolas Braud-Santoni wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 07:10:57PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > You missed the following part of the manpage: > > > >-a, --all > >Show new opportunities for contribution to all available Debian > >packages. > > > > > > I get 4k lines of output from how-can-i-help without the grep - why is > > usbmount missing? > > Actually, I missed the --all, somehow. > > As the manpage states, how-can-i-help lists things for /available/ > packages, when using --all. Assuming you use testing, that might be the > reason why it is not listed. > > Could you send here the output of `apt-cache policy usbmount` and usbmount: Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.0.22 Version table: 0.0.22 500 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages > `cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` ? deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid main deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid main You are searching for the problem at the wrong place: $ wget https://udd.debian.org/how-can-i-help.json.gz ... $ zgrep usbmount how-can-i-help.json.gz $ Whatever the problem might be, it clearly is on your server and not on my computer. > Best, > > nicoo cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 07:10:57PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > You missed the following part of the manpage: > >-a, --all >Show new opportunities for contribution to all available Debian >packages. > > > I get 4k lines of output from how-can-i-help without the grep - why is > usbmount missing? Actually, I missed the --all, somehow. As the manpage states, how-can-i-help lists things for /available/ packages, when using --all. Assuming you use testing, that might be the reason why it is not listed. Could you send here the output of `apt-cache policy usbmount` and `cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` ? Best, nicoo signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
tag 835457 -moreinfo thanks On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 05:43:52PM +0200, Nicolas Braud-Santoni wrote: > Control: tag -1 moreinfo > > Hi Adrian, Hi Nicolas, > Do you actually have usbmount installed? no, I don't. > As mentionned in the manpage, > how-can-i-help cares for packages you installed. > > > how-can-i-help hooks into APT to list opportunities for contributions to > > Debian (orphaned packages, > > bugs tagged newcomer) for packages installed locally, after each APT > > invocation. It can also be invoked > > directly, and then lists all opportunities for contribution (not just the > > new ones). You missed the following part of the manpage: -a, --all Show new opportunities for contribution to all available Debian packages. I get 4k lines of output from how-can-i-help without the grep - why is usbmount missing? > Best, > > nicoo > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:29:31PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Package: how-can-i-help > > Version: 14 > > Severity: normal > > > > $ how-can-i-help --all --old | grep usbmount > > $ > > > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/usbmount > > > > This package should be listed under > > Packages removed from Debian 'testing' cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
Control: tag -1 moreinfo Hi Adrian, Do you actually have usbmount installed? As mentionned in the manpage, how-can-i-help cares for packages you installed. > how-can-i-help hooks into APT to list opportunities for contributions to > Debian (orphaned packages, > bugs tagged newcomer) for packages installed locally, after each APT > invocation. It can also be invoked > directly, and then lists all opportunities for contribution (not just the new > ones). Best, nicoo On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:29:31PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Package: how-can-i-help > Version: 14 > Severity: normal > > $ how-can-i-help --all --old | grep usbmount > $ > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/usbmount > > This package should be listed under > Packages removed from Debian 'testing' > signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#835457: how-can-i-help doesn't list some package(s)
Package: how-can-i-help Version: 14 Severity: normal $ how-can-i-help --all --old | grep usbmount $ https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/usbmount This package should be listed under Packages removed from Debian 'testing'
