Bug#842316: Please consider demoting libreoffice-sdbc-firebird to suggests

2016-10-31 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 05:17:53AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> I think firebird support is exotic enough, that it shouldn't be

Maybe, yes.

But it's (well, was) the only alternative to have the internal embedded database
not being hsqldb (thus Java). This firebird thing is *not* for connecting
to firebird but for the embedded db.

> installed by default, which is currently the case via
> libreoffice->libreoffice-base->libreoffice-base-drivers->libreoffice-sdbc-firebird

Which was completely intended.

> I just did a fresh GNOME stretch installation, and was suprised to find
> the following packages being installed:

You reported this against

Package: libreoffice-base-drivers
Version: 1:5.2.3~rc1-4

but that one hasn't a libreoffice-sdbc-firebird built anymore (see changelog
for the reason, uncoodinated transition LO isn't at all ready for.). So how
did you get libreoffice-sdbc-firebird pulled it? Except if your apt still knew
it because you had something else in sources.list, too? (exeprimentak wouldn't
have caused
>
> firebird2.5-common-docinstall
> firebird2.5-commoninstall
> firebird2.5-server-common install
> firebird3.0-common-docinstall
> firebird3.0-commoninstall
> libreoffice-sdbc-firebird install

given the upload didn't yet arrive there and if it was it'd have installed
5.3 alpha1 and firebird 3.0 ;)

> Thanks for considering.

Trust me, I did consider already where to put it, and IMHO it's more warranted
to give people a alternative to Java than leaving it out in a Suggests people
won't install.
(Ok, then again you still wouuld need to enable Experimental Features in LO
to actually use it, but that's an other story)

Regards,

Rene



Bug#842316: Please consider demoting libreoffice-sdbc-firebird to suggests

2016-10-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: libreoffice-base-drivers
Version: 1:5.2.3~rc1-4
Severity: normal

Hi,

I think firebird support is exotic enough, that it shouldn't be
installed by default, which is currently the case via
libreoffice->libreoffice-base->libreoffice-base-drivers->libreoffice-sdbc-firebird

I just did a fresh GNOME stretch installation, and was suprised to find
the following packages being installed:

firebird2.5-common-doc  install
firebird2.5-common  install
firebird2.5-server-common   install
firebird3.0-common-doc  install
firebird3.0-common  install
libreoffice-sdbc-firebird   install

Thanks for considering.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.7.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages libreoffice-base-drivers depends on:
ii  dpkg  1.18.10
ii  libc6 2.24-5
ii  libgcc1   1:6.2.0-9
ii  libreoffice-core  1:5.2.3~rc1-4
ii  libstdc++66.2.0-9
ii  uno-libs3 5.2.3~rc1-4
ii  ure   5.2.3~rc1-4

Versions of packages libreoffice-base-drivers recommends:
pn  libreoffice-sdbc-firebird  
pn  libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb

Versions of packages libreoffice-base-drivers suggests:
pn  libjtds-java
pn  libreoffice-mysql-connector | libmyodbc | libmysql-java 
pn  libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql | odbc-postgresql | libpg-java  
pn  libsqliteodbc | tdsodbc | mdbtools  

-- no debconf information