Bug#855219: ghostscript: Please add gspcl

2017-02-23 Thread Patrik Schindler
Hello Jonas,

Am 23.02.2017 um 19:51 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard :

>> So I may look forward for a gpcl package for unstable in a not all to 
>> far future?
> Yes.

Thank you very much!

> ...and if at some point in time you realize that "not all too far" have 
> different meaning for me than for you, then feel free to ping this 
> bugreport - or roll up your sleeves and join the packaging effort!

Since it will for sure not make it to testing, I don’t expect anything before 
unstable becomes the new testing. Of course there is a short cut called 
backports… ;-)

I’m still not seasoned enough in packaging such a complex beast like gs or 
gpcl. in fact, I’m glad if I can do proper packaging for my planned PDF-Tool.

:wq! PoC



Bug#855219: ghostscript: Please add gspcl

2017-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Patrik Schindler (2017-02-23 18:24:02)
> Am 23.02.2017 um 17:49 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard :
>> [re-adding bugreport and setting same as reply-to]
>
> I did that intentionally but I’m also okay with having some smirky 
> remarks publicly accessible.

Sorry for not asking bfore publishing your post!


>> Licensing issue is different - quoting from ghostpdl/pcl/LICENSE:
>>
>>> The set of truetype fonts in the urwfonts directory are necessary 
>>> for the PCL/XL interpreter to function properly but they ARE NOT 
>>> FREE SOFTWARE and are NOT distributed under the GNU GPL. They can 
>>> instead be redistributed under the AFPL licence which bars 
>>> commercial use.
>>
>> Seems (but need closer inspection) that the fonts are free except for 
>> commercial use and therefore permitted in Debian non-free.
>
> So I may look forward for a gpcl package for unstable in a not all to 
> far future?

Yes.

...and if at some point in time you realize that "not all too far" have 
different meaning for me than for you, then feel free to ping this 
bugreport - or roll up your sleeves and join the packaging effort!

 - Jonas

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Bug#855219: ghostscript: Please add gspcl

2017-02-23 Thread Patrik Schindler
Hello Jonas,

Am 23.02.2017 um 17:49 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard :

> [re-adding bugreport and setting same as reply-to]

I did that intentionally but I’m also okay with having some smirky remarks 
publicly accessible.

> Licensing issue is different - quoting from ghostpdl/pcl/LICENSE:
> 
>> The set of truetype fonts in the urwfonts directory are necessary for 
>> the PCL/XL interpreter to function properly but they ARE NOT FREE 
>> SOFTWARE and are NOT distributed under the GNU GPL. They can instead 
>> be redistributed under the AFPL licence which bars commercial use.
> 
> Seems (but need closer inspection) that the fonts are free except for 
> commercial use and therefore permitted in Debian non-free.

So I may look forward for a gpcl package for unstable in a not all to far 
future?

>> I’m tinkering with OS/400 in my spare time. Printing from there 
>> without embedded graphics always creates just PCL data. I’m currently 
>> developing an lpd-infilter which enables me to just throw PS or PCL 
>> data into the print queue on Linux and I’ll get a nice PDF generated 
>> and placed in the calling user’s home. At the moment it’s just in an 
>> „it works“ state but when I added proper error handling routines, I’ll 
>> release this as GPL OSS.
> Sounds like a fun project :-)

Yes, indeed!

:wq! PoC



Bug#855219: ghostscript: Please add gspcl

2017-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[re-adding bugreport and setting same as reply-to]

Quoting Schindler, Patrik (2017-02-23 16:43:01)
> Am 23.02.2017 um 14:42 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard :
>> Upstream has warned me that gspcl us unlikely to be possible to 
>> provide with Debian due to a core requirement of fonts not freely 
>> available.  Might still be possible to build gs and gspcl together, 
>> ship gs in main and the gspcl-specific parts in contrib - with a 
>> separate source package for non-free fonts (if those are legal to 
>> distribute there at all).
>
> Sounds like a good way to cope with this. If distribution is not 
> legally possible, there is at least one package which just contains a 
> script which downloads the original tarball from the distribution 
> website and unpacks the contents to a certain destination directory. 
> Purging of the package deletes the directory also. Maybe ubuntu flash 
> player package and sun java?

Licensing issue is different - quoting from ghostpdl/pcl/LICENSE:

> The set of truetype fonts in the urwfonts directory are necessary for 
> the PCL/XL interpreter to function properly but they ARE NOT FREE 
> SOFTWARE and are NOT distributed under the GNU GPL. They can instead 
> be redistributed under the AFPL licence which bars commercial use.

Seems (but need closer inspection) that the fonts are free except for 
commercial use and therefore permitted in Debian non-free.



>> Just curious: What are your concrete needs for gspcl?
>
> I’m tinkering with OS/400 in my spare time. Printing from there 
> without embedded graphics always creates just PCL data. I’m currently 
> developing an lpd-infilter which enables me to just throw PS or PCL 
> data into the print queue on Linux and I’ll get a nice PDF generated 
> and placed in the calling user’s home. At the moment it’s just in an 
> „it works“ state but when I added proper error handling routines, I’ll 
> release this as GPL OSS.

Sounds like a fun project :-)

 - Jonas

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Bug#855219: ghostscript: Please add gspcl

2017-02-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Patrik,

Quoting Patrik Schindler (2017-02-15 16:40:47)
> The GhostScript project also offers gspcl, which does the same with 
> PCL-Data as GhostScript does with PostScript. There's no package for 
> Debian and implementing this seems to be not so trivial, because gspcl 
> generates the same scripts as ghostscript itself (ps2pdf and the 
> like).
> 
> Please add gspcl to Debian. :-) Thanks!

Thanks for reporting this!

I have not yet inspected closely, but it might be that those are the 
_same_ scripts: at the source level, gspcl is a superset of gs.

Upstream has warned me that gspcl us unlikely to be possible to provide 
with Debian due to a core requirement of fonts not freely available.  
Might still be possible to build gs and gspcl together, ship gs in main 
and the gspcl-specific parts in contrib - with a separate source package 
for non-free fonts (if those are legal to distribute there at all).

Just curious: What are your concrete needs for gspcl?


 - Jonas

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Bug#855219: ghostscript: Please add gspcl

2017-02-15 Thread Patrik Schindler
Package: ghostscript
Version: 9.06~dfsg-2+deb8u4
Severity: wishlist

The GhostScript project also offers gspcl, which does the same with PCL-Data as
GhostScript does with PostScript. There's no package for Debian and
implementing this seems to be not so trivial, because gspcl generates the same
scripts as ghostscript itself (ps2pdf and the like).

Please add gspcl to Debian. :-) Thanks!

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 8.7
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)

Versions of packages ghostscript depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]  1.5.56
ii  gsfonts1:8.11+urwcyr1.0.7~pre44-4.2
ii  libc6  2.19-18+deb8u7
ii  libgs9 9.06~dfsg-2+deb8u4

ghostscript recommends no packages.

Versions of packages ghostscript suggests:
ii  ghostscript-x  9.06~dfsg-2+deb8u4

-- no debconf information