Bug#855582: Wish: ISO default datefield

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Hello again.

i wrote:
 |So i have dropped the entire "default".rc stuff, because we will
 |provide initial values for *datefield{-markout-older}*:
 |
 |+   ok_v_datefield, /* {i3val="%Y-%m-%d %H:%M"} */
 |+   ok_v_datefield_markout_older,   /* {i3val="%Y-%m-%d"} */
 |
 |I gave you credit for this, the commit is currently (but on the
 |development branch, which will soon change again) [1,credit:2].

So, was that you?  ^.^  I haven't included references to ISO 8601
because that really would get lengthy, i think it should be left
to strftime(3), at least for now.  Is the above an acceptable
solution to you?  And please speak up if you want your entry in
THANKS to include your name.

Thank you!
Ciao,

--steffen

Bug#855582: Wish: ISO default datefield

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Hello.

"r.ductor"  wrote:
 |Package: s-nail
 |Version: 14.8.16-1
 |Severity: wishlist
 |
 |Dear Maintainer,
 |
 |thnaks a lot for thice nice software.

Thank you -- and it is getting better, i hope..

 |You might want to consider changing the default datefield to '%F %T' \
 |or other iso variants.
 |
 |As a complete s-nail/mailx/mail newby I was really scaried by the headers \
 |my firs h showed,
 |the time ordering and year of the messages was compleately unclear.
 |I took me one hour of googling and a lot of patience to dive in the \
 |man to understand how
 |s-nail works. I'm not sure that all other newbies will have the same \
 |patience.

I see, sorry for that!  The manual of v14.8 misses the link to
*datefield*, but v14.9 already includes it, so you will have
a direct reference chain from "On reading mail, and interactive
mode" over *headline* to *datefield*, which i think is ok: it will
be hyperlinked if the output format supports it, so you could get
there really fast.

The global /etc/mail.rc (/etc/s-nail.rc on Debian) includes
a commented-out example for *datefield* and
*datefield-markout-older*, already in v14.8, but now that i look
again there is no link to *headline*, which i will change in
a minute!

Regarding %F and %T...  No, this i cannot do, because these
formats refer to newer ISO C versions (strftime(3)), and S-nail is
C89 compatible.  You would be right to claim that the examples
from mail/s-nail.rc are not so either, however.  And even if
i look at real old C library code you would then still be right
for the %g that i use for *datefield-markout-older*.  Ooops.
So, the old code would actually support %R and %T, but not %F and
%g (and i am talking about @(#)strftime.c  8.1 (Berkeley)
%06/04/93" from CSRG, here).

So i have dropped the entire "default".rc stuff, because we will
provide initial values for *datefield{-markout-older}*:

+   ok_v_datefield, /* {i3val="%Y-%m-%d %H:%M"} */
+   ok_v_datefield_markout_older,   /* {i3val="%Y-%m-%d"} */

I gave you credit for this, the commit is currently (but on the
development branch, which will soon change again) [1,credit:2].
Thank you, and, from grey Germany:

Ciao!

  [1] 
https://git.sdaoden.eu/cgit/s-nail.git/commit/?h=next=21b65e6ef720654fe0a6309a94354c7c9c97f247
  [2] 
https://git.sdaoden.eu/cgit/s-nail.git/commit/?h=next=373025818a3c13355d178565d12673719e711600

--steffen

Bug#855582: Wish: ISO default datefield

[r.ductor]

Package: s-nail
Version: 14.8.16-1
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

thnaks a lot for thice nice software.

You might want to consider changing the default datefield to '%F %T' or other 
iso variants.

As a complete s-nail/mailx/mail newby I was really scaried by the headers my 
firs h showed,
the time ordering and year of the messages was compleately unclear.
I took me one hour of googling and a lot of patience to dive in the man to 
understand how
s-nail works. I'm not sure that all other newbies will have the same patience.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 9.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (900, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages s-nail depends on:
ii  base-files9.8
ii  libc6 2.24-9
ii  libcomerr21.43.4-2
ii  libgssapi-krb5-2  1.15-1
ii  libidn11  1.33-1
ii  libk5crypto3  1.15-1
ii  libkrb5-3 1.15-1
ii  libssl1.1 1.1.0e-1
ii  libtinfo5 6.0+20161126-1

s-nail recommends no packages.

Versions of packages s-nail suggests:
ii  exim4  4.88-5
ii  exim4-daemon-light [mail-transport-agent]  4.88-5

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/s-nail.rc changed:
set autocollapse
set append
set ask
set bsdannounce
set crt
set dot
set history-gabby
set hold
set indentprefix="> "
set markanswered
set mime-counter-evidence
set keep
set keepsave
set quote
set recipients-in-cc
set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1
set showname
set showto
fwdretain subject date from to
retain date from to cc subject message-id mail-followup-to reply-to
set datefield='%F %T'


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