Bug#861744: [Pkg-privacy-maintainers] Bug#861744: torbrowser-launcher: Should not be part of Stretch

2017-05-22 Thread intrigeri
Hi Holger,

[This comes after reading your message, feeling unhappy about it,
sleeping on it and re-reading it again.]

While I see a few interesting related points and questions in your
message, I still don't understand what is your position wrt.
what's most relevant here IMO, so I figured I would ask you instead of
arguing based on wrong assumptions:

Fundamentally, do you disagree with the main point this bug report is
about i.e. "Should not be part of Stretch"?

And if you indeed do want to see this package in Stretch, how do you
plan to be involved on maintaining it via stable-security or
stable-updates?

Cheers,
-- 
intrigeri



Bug#861744: [Pkg-privacy-maintainers] Bug#861744: torbrowser-launcher: Should not be part of Stretch

2017-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 12:27:00PM +, u wrote:
> Currently, the design of the software makes the package very often
> unusable, as soon as TorBrowser upstream gets signed with a different
> OpenPGP key or the SSL certificate of the server changes. This is not
> reliable and normal users will be unable to workaround these issues
> themselves.

I don't see why uploading to stable-security to fix these issues (=changing
a GPG key or SSL cert) ain't possible, but this is certainly your call.

> It'll be easier and safer to provide up-to-date versions to users using
> stable-backports. This shall be documented on the Debian wiki.

So you are assuming the above will change in the future? Because,
stable-backports is only for packages which will be included in the next
release…

Also the fact that you neglected the current jessie-backports package
(it's broken since months) is not setting a good example for future
backports… (backports admins really dont like it…)

All this also means that I'll drop most tests from
https://jenkins.debian.net/view/torbrowser/ - except those testing
installation in unstable and from unstable (on testing and stable) and
from git. (The failing tests constantly send emails, which is what bothers me
here.)


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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