Bug#877638: mate-panel: guake doesn't show in mate-notification area

[Vlad Orlov]

Hi,

Can you actually reproduce the issue? For me guake always shows the icon.
I've tried with locally built mate-panel 1.19, then downgraded to 1.18.4-2
from the repos. Also tried both manual launch of guake and autostart with
the session. No luck with reproducing.

Bug#877638: mate-panel: guake doesn't show in mate-notification area

[Mike Gabriel]

HI Vlad,

On  Fr 20 Okt 2017 20:31:38 CEST, Vlad Orlov wrote:


Hi,


My suspicion is that guake does not use X11 embed anymore (which is
the API provided by the notification area applet), but the Indicators
API.

Try installing and adding mate-indicator-applet and check if you find
guake's icon in there.


It's not going to work in Debian... mate-indicator-applet is just a  
container,
it needs indicator-* packages to display the actual content. It's  
better to try
this in Ubuntu. It has indicator-application, indicator-sound and  
other similar

packages.


I know. I am currently in the processing of introducing the full  
Indicator stack to Debian. As a fork [1] of Ubuntu Indicators.


@gnugr: it is much more tricky to get this running on Debian testing.  
We actually need a patched mate-indicator-applet for this, the  
ayatana-indicator-application installed and then some consumer (e.g.  
like variety, remmina, etc.).


Martin and I have plans to work on Ayatana Indicators now after the  
17.10 release of Ubuntu is out.


Greets,
Mike

[1] https://github.com/AyatanaIndicators

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Bug#877638: mate-panel: guake doesn't show in mate-notification area

[Vlad Orlov]

Hi,

> My suspicion is that guake does not use X11 embed anymore (which is  
> the API provided by the notification area applet), but the Indicators  
> API.
> 
> Try installing and adding mate-indicator-applet and check if you find  
> guake's icon in there.

It's not going to work in Debian... mate-indicator-applet is just a container,
it needs indicator-* packages to display the actual content. It's better to try
this in Ubuntu. It has indicator-application, indicator-sound and other similar
packages.

Bug#877638: mate-panel: guake doesn't show in mate-notification area

[shirish शिरीष]

in-line :-

On 09/10/2017, Mike Gabriel  wrote:
> Hi shirish
>

Hi Mike,

> On  Di 03 Okt 2017 19:10:59 CEST, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>
>> Package: mate-panel
>> Version: 1.18.4-2
>> Severity: normal
>>
>> Dear Maintainer,
>>
>> For quite sometime I have not been able to see guake in the
>> notification area. While it is a pain point to delete the panel and
>> re-do it again, I finally did it tonight with the hopes of seeing
>> guake in the notification area. Guake is started the moment I enter a
>> mate-session. But all that hard work went down the drain as still the
>> guake icon is not visible in the notification area. If I click slowly
>> between the notification area 3 dots and qbittorrent, an application
>> appearing in the notification area, I do get guake right-click menu
>> through which I could make changes in guake.
>>
>> FWIW, I did remove the panel and start afresh in the hopes that guake
>> will show up in the notification area but it doesn't :( .
>>
>> I did look at -
>>
>> └─[$] cat /usr/share/mate-panel/ui/notification-area-menu.xml
>>
>>  1   > action="SystemTrayHelp" />
>>  2   > action="SystemTrayAbout" />
>>  3
>>
>> I also looked at guake, mainly at -
>>
>> ┌─[shirish@debian] - [~/.gconf/apps/guake/style] - [10044]
>> └─[$] cat %gconf.xml
>>
>>  1   
>>  2   
>>  3   > value="0"/>
>>  4   > type="int"
>> value="0"/>
>>  5   
>>
>> I'm not sure about the entries in %gnonf.xml appearing in
>> ~/.gconf/apps/guake/general hence sharing that, maybe something in
>> there which might be interfering.
>>
>> FWIW, I have checked (and double-checked) that guake-preferences has
>> system tray checked so that it will appear as a tray icon in the
>> notification area.
>>
>
> My suspicion is that guake does not use X11 embed anymore (which is
> the API provided by the notification area applet), but the Indicators
> API.
>
> Try installing and adding mate-indicator-applet and check if you find
> guake's icon in there.
>

First of all thank you for maintaining mate, it means a lot to people
like me who don't have access to latest fancy hardware.

As far as mate-indicator applet and Guake's presence there it's a
no-go. I am sharing couple of photographs for the same.



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>

[$] apt-cache policy mate-indicator-applet
[16:29:05]
mate-indicator-applet:
  Installed: 1.18.0-1
  Candidate: 1.18.0-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.18.0-1 600
600 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
  1 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Bug#877638: mate-panel: guake doesn't show in mate-notification area

[Mike Gabriel]

Hi shirish

On  Di 03 Okt 2017 19:10:59 CEST, shirish शिरीष wrote:


Package: mate-panel
Version: 1.18.4-2
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

For quite sometime I have not been able to see guake in the
notification area. While it is a pain point to delete the panel and
re-do it again, I finally did it tonight with the hopes of seeing
guake in the notification area. Guake is started the moment I enter a
mate-session. But all that hard work went down the drain as still the
guake icon is not visible in the notification area. If I click slowly
between the notification area 3 dots and qbittorrent, an application
appearing in the notification area, I do get guake right-click menu
through which I could make changes in guake.

FWIW, I did remove the panel and start afresh in the hopes that guake
will show up in the notification area but it doesn't :( .

I did look at -

└─[$] cat /usr/share/mate-panel/ui/notification-area-menu.xml

 1	action="SystemTrayHelp" />
 2	action="SystemTrayAbout" />

 3

I also looked at guake, mainly at -

┌─[shirish@debian] - [~/.gconf/apps/guake/style] - [10044]
└─[$] cat %gconf.xml

 1  
 2  
 3  
 4  
 5  

I'm not sure about the entries in %gnonf.xml appearing in
~/.gconf/apps/guake/general hence sharing that, maybe something in
there which might be interfering.

FWIW, I have checked (and double-checked) that guake-preferences has
system tray checked so that it will appear as a tray icon in the
notification area.



My suspicion is that guake does not use X11 embed anymore (which is  
the API provided by the notification area applet), but the Indicators  
API.


Try installing and adding mate-indicator-applet and check if you find  
guake's icon in there.


Mike
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