Bug#883214: Please package new upstream 3.0 version in experimental (with GTK+ 3.0 support)

[Gary Kramlich]

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Josh Triplett  wrote:

>
> I appreciate the feedback. If you don't think Pidgin 3.0 is suitable
> even for experimental at this time, and you don't want anyone other
> than its developers testing it yet, then it probably isn't a good idea
> to package it yet.
>

It's not that we're against feedback or people using it, it's that there
shouldn't be a GA or anything.  At best it's alpha level right now.  If
there was a beta or an rc or something, then sure by all means package away
:)


> My goal was purely to seek a GTK+3 version of Pidgin, and some
> searching turned up the Pidgin 3.0 branch.
>

Gotcha.  It's unfortunate it's taken this long, but it is what it is now.
We're slowly grinding through it, but it's going to be a bit yet.

Thanks,

--
Gary Kramlich 

Bug#883214: Please package new upstream 3.0 version in experimental (with GTK+ 3.0 support)

[Josh Triplett]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 03:01:33PM -0600, Gary Kramlich wrote:
> Hello, I'm Gary Kramlich the lead developer of Pidgin. While 3.0 does work,
> I think putting it in experimental right now is a bit premature.  It's been
> in development for the better part of a decade (if it hasn't already been a
> decade).  There is a lot of stuff that's in bad shape and is not compatible
> with Pidgin 2 in any way shape or form (minus the config directory).  That
> said it requires a currently unpackage library called gplugin (written by
> me) that does have packaging written but is not in any distributions at
> this time.  It does however follow a fairly recent version of the Debian
> standards.
> 
> I am working on getting all of this stuff into so packagecloud.io
> repositories for people to try, but right now having more people dealing
> with dependency changes and stuff right now doesn't seem like a good use of
> anyone's time.

I appreciate the feedback. If you don't think Pidgin 3.0 is suitable
even for experimental at this time, and you don't want anyone other
than its developers testing it yet, then it probably isn't a good idea
to package it yet.

My goal was purely to seek a GTK+3 version of Pidgin, and some
searching turned up the Pidgin 3.0 branch.

Bug#883214: Please package new upstream 3.0 version in experimental (with GTK+ 3.0 support)

[Gary Kramlich]

Hello, I'm Gary Kramlich the lead developer of Pidgin. While 3.0 does work,
I think putting it in experimental right now is a bit premature.  It's been
in development for the better part of a decade (if it hasn't already been a
decade).  There is a lot of stuff that's in bad shape and is not compatible
with Pidgin 2 in any way shape or form (minus the config directory).  That
said it requires a currently unpackage library called gplugin (written by
me) that does have packaging written but is not in any distributions at
this time.  It does however follow a fairly recent version of the Debian
standards.

I am working on getting all of this stuff into so packagecloud.io
repositories for people to try, but right now having more people dealing
with dependency changes and stuff right now doesn't seem like a good use of
anyone's time.


On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Josh Triplett 
wrote:

> Package: pidgin
> Version: 2.12.0-1+b1
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Upstream has a new 3.0 version in development, which includes GTK+ 3.0
> support. Please consider packaging it in experimental.
>
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: buster/sid
>   APT prefers unstable
>   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
> Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
>
> Kernel: Linux 4.13.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=C.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=C.UTF-8
> (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
> Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
>
> Versions of packages pidgin depends on:
> ii  libatk1.0-0 2.26.1-1
> ii  libc6   2.25-2
> ii  libcairo2   1.15.8-2
> ii  libdbus-1-3 1.12.2-1
> ii  libdbus-glib-1-20.108-3
> ii  libfontconfig1  2.12.6-0.1
> ii  libfreetype62.8.1-0.1
> ii  libgadu31:1.12.2-2
> ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0  2.36.11-1
> ii  libglib2.0-02.54.2-1
> ii  libgstreamer1.0-0   1.12.3-1
> ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.24.31-3
> ii  libgtkspell02.0.16-1.1
> ii  libice6 2:1.0.9-2
> ii  libpango-1.0-0  1.40.13-2
> ii  libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.40.13-2
> ii  libpangoft2-1.0-0   1.40.13-2
> ii  libpurple0  2.12.0-1+b1
> ii  libsm6  2:1.2.2-1+b3
> ii  libx11-62:1.6.4-3
> ii  libxss1 1:1.2.2-1+b2
> ii  perl-base [perlapi-5.26.0]  5.26.1-3
> ii  pidgin-data 2.12.0-1
>
> Versions of packages pidgin recommends:
> ii  gstreamer1.0-alsa  1.12.3-1
> ii  gstreamer1.0-libav 1.12.3-1
> ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base  1.12.3-1
> ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good  1.12.3-1
> ii  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio1.12.3-1
>
> Versions of packages pidgin suggests:
> ii  libsqlite3-0  3.21.0-1
>
> -- no debconf information
>
>


-- 
Thanks,

--
Gary Kramlich 

Bug#883214: Please package new upstream 3.0 version in experimental (with GTK+ 3.0 support)

[Josh Triplett]

Package: pidgin
Version: 2.12.0-1+b1
Severity: wishlist

Upstream has a new 3.0 version in development, which includes GTK+ 3.0
support. Please consider packaging it in experimental.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: buster/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.13.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=C.UTF-8 
(charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages pidgin depends on:
ii  libatk1.0-0 2.26.1-1
ii  libc6   2.25-2
ii  libcairo2   1.15.8-2
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.12.2-1
ii  libdbus-glib-1-20.108-3
ii  libfontconfig1  2.12.6-0.1
ii  libfreetype62.8.1-0.1
ii  libgadu31:1.12.2-2
ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0  2.36.11-1
ii  libglib2.0-02.54.2-1
ii  libgstreamer1.0-0   1.12.3-1
ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.24.31-3
ii  libgtkspell02.0.16-1.1
ii  libice6 2:1.0.9-2
ii  libpango-1.0-0  1.40.13-2
ii  libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.40.13-2
ii  libpangoft2-1.0-0   1.40.13-2
ii  libpurple0  2.12.0-1+b1
ii  libsm6  2:1.2.2-1+b3
ii  libx11-62:1.6.4-3
ii  libxss1 1:1.2.2-1+b2
ii  perl-base [perlapi-5.26.0]  5.26.1-3
ii  pidgin-data 2.12.0-1

Versions of packages pidgin recommends:
ii  gstreamer1.0-alsa  1.12.3-1
ii  gstreamer1.0-libav 1.12.3-1
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base  1.12.3-1
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good  1.12.3-1
ii  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio1.12.3-1

Versions of packages pidgin suggests:
ii  libsqlite3-0  3.21.0-1

-- no debconf information