Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Il 05/12/2020 15:56, Norbert Preining ha scritto: > Can you push this change to experimental, please? done
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Hi Fabio, hi all > tasksel xterm is installed and gnome-terminal not, I suppose something Ok, so something did install xterm, and that satisfies x-terminal-emulator. > Possible workaround probably is put gnome-terminal as recommends in > cinnamon-core (that should install it and also make possibile remove it > without remove the meta package. I don't know anything better at the moment. sounds fine to me Can yoou push this change to experimental, please? Thanks Norbert -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Il 05/12/2020 14:07, Norbert Preining ha scritto: >> Tried clean install from tasksel and install xterm instead >> gnome-terminal, after install gnome-terminal is still showed in menu and > Ok, so that debunkes the claim that it is *not* shown in the Cinnamon > menu/favorites. > >> favorites so gnome-terminal can be maintained as default but must found >> a way to install it instead of xterm. From a fast search I not found why >> and where install it. @Norbert: any idea? > What do you mean? > > As far as I can see, gnome-terminal should be automatically installed. > task-cinnamon-desktop depends on cinnamon-desktop-environment > cinnamon-desktop-environment depends on > gnome-terminal | x-terminal-emulator > So by default, gnome-terminal should be installed ... > > I really don't see why this shouldn't suffice, and why it didn't show up > in Paul's setup? I also thinked was ok but test confimed that after cinnamon install from tasksel xterm is installed and gnome-terminal not, I suppose something install xterm before and when arrives to "gnome-terminal | x-terminal-emulator" is already satisfied with xterm (that provides x-terminal-emulator) I checked for example gnome task where gnome-terminal is installed and gnome-terminal is dep without alternative in gnome-core. Possible workaround probably is put gnome-terminal as recommends in cinnamon-core (that should install it and also make possibile remove it without remove the meta package. I don't know anything better at the moment. > > Best > > Norbert > > -- > PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info > Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev > GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13 >
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Op 05-12-2020 om 14:01 schreef Fabio Fantoni: About gnome-terminal is still present in menu and favorites after upgrade to 4.8, I'll try to check also in clean install (probably in next days). Tried clean install from tasksel and install xterm instead gnome-terminal, after install gnome-terminal is still showed in menu and favorites so gnome-terminal can be maintained as default but must found a way to install it instead of xterm. From a fast search I not found why and where install it. @Norbert: any idea? Not sure how you are testing, but I don't see gnome-terminal in the menu. And I think that's normal because of: OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; in the .desktop file. This is a Debian patch: https://sources.debian.org/patches/gnome-terminal/3.38.1-2/01_onlyshowin.patch/ With regards, Paul -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
> Tried clean install from tasksel and install xterm instead > gnome-terminal, after install gnome-terminal is still showed in menu and Ok, so that debunkes the claim that it is *not* shown in the Cinnamon menu/favorites. > favorites so gnome-terminal can be maintained as default but must found > a way to install it instead of xterm. From a fast search I not found why > and where install it. @Norbert: any idea? What do you mean? As far as I can see, gnome-terminal should be automatically installed. task-cinnamon-desktop depends on cinnamon-desktop-environment cinnamon-desktop-environment depends on gnome-terminal | x-terminal-emulator So by default, gnome-terminal should be installed ... I really don't see why this shouldn't suffice, and why it didn't show up in Paul's setup? Best Norbert -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
>> About gnome-terminal is still present in menu and favorites after >> upgrade to 4.8, I'll try to check also in clean install (probably in >> next days). Tried clean install from tasksel and install xterm instead gnome-terminal, after install gnome-terminal is still showed in menu and favorites so gnome-terminal can be maintained as default but must found a way to install it instead of xterm. From a fast search I not found why and where install it. @Norbert: any idea?
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Op 04-12-2020 om 17:41 schreef Fabio Fantoni: Il 04/12/2020 11:15, Norbert Preining ha scritto: I'm definitely for Atril and mate-terminal, G3 stuff is just too anti-user for me. All functionality hidden in a way that you have to search for it again and again (embedded fonts? Print? ...) I added firefox-esr in favorites (in git). Great! About gnome-terminal is still present in menu and favorites after upgrade to 4.8, I'll try to check also in clean install (probably in next days). About Atril I did a fast try and is better as interface (simpler/more intuitive), I also did a fast search and as I feared it does not seem to have a significant development, not even as a porting of patches from evince, significant bugfixes present in evince for years, reported in atril but not backported; and also significant features added in evince and not present in atril (for example https://github.com/mate-desktop/atril/issues/254). It doesn't seem optimal to me neither one nor the other :( You are right, could be better. But it's not that the project is dead, there are patches, 18 days ago the last one. I am using Atril every day and I have never missed this feature. This is not about selecting text but a way to mark text. With regards, Paul -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Il 04/12/2020 11:15, Norbert Preining ha scritto: > I'm definitely for Atril and mate-terminal, G3 stuff is just too anti-user > for me. All functionality hidden in a way that you have to search for it > again and again (embedded fonts? Print? ...) I added firefox-esr in favorites (in git). About gnome-terminal is still present in menu and favorites after upgrade to 4.8, I'll try to check also in clean install (probably in next days). About Atril I did a fast try and is better as interface (simpler/more intuitive), I also did a fast search and as I feared it does not seem to have a significant development, not even as a porting of patches from evince, significant bugfixes present in evince for years, reported in atril but not backported; and also significant features added in evince and not present in atril (for example https://github.com/mate-desktop/atril/issues/254). It doesn't seem optimal to me neither one nor the other :(
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Il 04/12/2020 09:58, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: > Op 04-12-2020 om 00:06 schreef Norbert Preining: > >> In this case it would be good - and if it isn't a problem - to simply >> add *both* to the favorites, and only the one present will be shown. >> >> Fabio, could you commit the respective change to the experimental >> branch, please? Today I'll start test cinnamon 4.8 in experimental, I'll do it with other changes needed (if spotted) after tests. > > Sounds great! >> I suggest mate-terminal. It should show up in cinnamon (when I used it >> it did). Again, Fabio, if you could push these changes to experimental >> that would be great. > > Mate-terminal is very good too! I have gnome-terminal and it also in favorites seems strange is changed to not show in cinnamon, I'll try to check on updated Sid (I haven't updated it for a few months) and confirmed I'll put mate-terminal as default in meta package and cinnamon favorites. > > What I also would like to suggest, is to install Atril and to remove > Evince as PDF reader. The point with Evince is that the layout is very > different from the other programs, it has a Gnome-look. You have to > find how you can print, for example. Atril comes from Mate and > lookslike all the other programs. I also hate "minimalistic layout" that are too common in recent years but Atril was forked from evince long time ago, I don't know if have good development that keep merged bugfixes and useful features. @Norbert @Maxy you used Atril? if yes what do you think? > > With regards, > Paul van der Vlis > >
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
I'm definitely for Atril and mate-terminal, G3 stuff is just too anti-user for me. All functionality hidden in a way that you have to search for it again and again (embedded fonts? Print? ...) -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13 Dec 4, 2020 18:00:23 Paul van der Vlis : > Op 04-12-2020 om 00:06 schreef Norbert Preining: > >> In this case it would be good - and if it isn't a problem - to simply >> add *both* to the favorites, and only the one present will be shown. >> Fabio, could you commit the respective change to the experimental >> branch, please? > > Sounds great! >> I suggest mate-terminal. It should show up in cinnamon (when I used it >> it did). Again, Fabio, if you could push these changes to experimental >> that would be great. > > Mate-terminal is very good too! > > What I also would like to suggest, is to install Atril and to remove Evince > as PDF reader. The point with Evince is that the layout is very different > from the other programs, it has a Gnome-look. You have to find how you can > print, for example. Atril comes from Mate and lookslike all the other > programs. > > With regards, > Paul van der Vlis > >
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Op 04-12-2020 om 00:06 schreef Norbert Preining: In this case it would be good - and if it isn't a problem - to simply add *both* to the favorites, and only the one present will be shown. Fabio, could you commit the respective change to the experimental branch, please? Sounds great! I suggest mate-terminal. It should show up in cinnamon (when I used it it did). Again, Fabio, if you could push these changes to experimental that would be great. Mate-terminal is very good too! What I also would like to suggest, is to install Atril and to remove Evince as PDF reader. The point with Evince is that the layout is very different from the other programs, it has a Gnome-look. You have to find how you can print, for example. Atril comes from Mate and lookslike all the other programs. With regards, Paul van der Vlis -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Hi all, since I am preparing 4.8 packages for unstable, I would love to get this sorted out: On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, Fabio Fantoni wrote: > @Norbert @Maxy: what do you think is the better do? I think would be > good have default favorite working in both debian stable/testing (with > only firefox-esr) and ubuntu and derivates (with only firefox) In this case it would be good - and if it isn't a problem - to simply add *both* to the favorites, and only the one present will be shown. Fabio, could you commit the respective change to the experimental branch, please? > cinnamon-desktop-environment actually have gnome-terminal as default and > x-terminal-emulator as alternative (that include xfce4-terminal) On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Hmm, you are right. But the menu does not show it. Maybe because of: > OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; > in /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Terminal.desktop > So maybe better to use another terminal? I suggest mate-terminal. It should show up in cinnamon (when I used it it did). Again, Fabio, if you could push these changes to experimental that would be great. Thanks Norbert -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Op 22-11-2020 om 17:53 schreef Fabio Fantoni: And really, there is no Firefox in the favorites, so there is something wrong. Maybe the problem is that it's "firefox-esr" and not "firefox" ? Is correct, it set firefox.desktop, firefox-esr have firefox-esr.desktop instead. @Norbert @Maxy: what do you think is the better do? I think would be good have default favorite working in both debian stable/testing (with only firefox-esr) and ubuntu and derivates (with only firefox) Maybe it's an idea to add them both? There is no firefox-esr in Ubuntu, so I guess it will show no icon like now in Debian. With regards, Paul van der Vlis -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Op 22-11-2020 om 17:53 schreef Fabio Fantoni: cinnamon-desktop-environment actually have gnome-terminal as default Hmm, you are right. But the menu does not show it. Maybe because of: OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; in /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Terminal.desktop So maybe better to use another terminal? you can install any of the 22 terminal that provide xfce4-terminal (and remove gnome-terminal if already instealled) without broke/remove cinnamon-desktop-environment metapackage if you want I need a good terminal to do that ;-) With regards, Paul -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Il 22/11/2020 16:36, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:06:30 +0200 Fabio Fantoni > wrote: >> Il 10/01/2019 15:34, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: >> > Package: cinnamon >> > Version: 3.8.8-1 >> > Severity: wishlist >> > >> > Please add Firefox to the favorites in the menu. >> >> Hi, was already done in cinnamon 3.0 and is still present: >> >> https://salsa.debian.org/cinnamon-team/cinnamon/blob/master/debian/cinnamon.gsettings-override >> >> >> it wasn't as expected? you have installed cinnamon 3.8 or version <3.0 >> and upgraded until 3.8 (dist-upgrade debian from previous version or >> using debian testing/sid)? > > I sell Debian on pre-installed laptops, so I install Debian stable > very often. And my default is Cinnamon. > > And really, there is no Firefox in the favorites, so there is > something wrong. Maybe the problem is that it's "firefox-esr" and not > "firefox" ? Is correct, it set firefox.desktop, firefox-esr have firefox-esr.desktop instead. @Norbert @Maxy: what do you think is the better do? I think would be good have default favorite working in both debian stable/testing (with only firefox-esr) and ubuntu and derivates (with only firefox) > > What I also would like is a nice terminal. Normally the Cinnamon-task > does only install xterm what's really not nice, so I install > xfce-terminal using a script. But even that is a pain, because I need > Xterm to do that. I cannot scroll back to see errors, the font is too > small, etc. cinnamon-desktop-environment actually have gnome-terminal as default and x-terminal-emulator as alternative (that include xfce4-terminal) you can install any of the 22 terminal that provide xfce4-terminal (and remove gnome-terminal if already instealled) without broke/remove cinnamon-desktop-environment metapackage if you want the thing that install xterm as default and not gnome-terminal (as you wrote) is strange to me > > I would like to come in contact with the person who makes the defaults > for Cinnamon. > > With regards, > Paul van der Vlis > >
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:06:30 +0200 Fabio Fantoni wrote: Il 10/01/2019 15:34, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: > Package: cinnamon > Version: 3.8.8-1 > Severity: wishlist > > Please add Firefox to the favorites in the menu. Hi, was already done in cinnamon 3.0 and is still present: https://salsa.debian.org/cinnamon-team/cinnamon/blob/master/debian/cinnamon.gsettings-override it wasn't as expected? you have installed cinnamon 3.8 or version <3.0 and upgraded until 3.8 (dist-upgrade debian from previous version or using debian testing/sid)? I sell Debian on pre-installed laptops, so I install Debian stable very often. And my default is Cinnamon. And really, there is no Firefox in the favorites, so there is something wrong. Maybe the problem is that it's "firefox-esr" and not "firefox" ? What I also would like is a nice terminal. Normally the Cinnamon-task does only install xterm what's really not nice, so I install xfce-terminal using a script. But even that is a pain, because I need Xterm to do that. I cannot scroll back to see errors, the font is too small, etc. I would like to come in contact with the person who makes the defaults for Cinnamon. With regards, Paul van der Vlis -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Il 10/01/2019 15:34, Paul van der Vlis ha scritto: > Package: cinnamon > Version: 3.8.8-1 > Severity: wishlist > > Please add Firefox to the favorites in the menu. Hi, was already done in cinnamon 3.0 and is still present: https://salsa.debian.org/cinnamon-team/cinnamon/blob/master/debian/cinnamon.gsettings-override it wasn't as expected? you have installed cinnamon 3.8 or version <3.0 and upgraded until 3.8 (dist-upgrade debian from previous version or using debian testing/sid)? > > With regards, > Paul van der Vlis > > >
Bug#918917: Please add Firefox to the favorites
Package: cinnamon Version: 3.8.8-1 Severity: wishlist Please add Firefox to the favorites in the menu. With regards, Paul van der Vlis -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
