Bug#924409: removing hiera from debian? or do not ship with buster
On 2019-03-14 08:21:10, Apollon Oikonomopoulos wrote: > Control: severity -1 important > Control: tags -1 - buster > Control: retitle -1 hiera should be removed after Buster is released > > Hi, > > On 13:07 Tue 12 Mar , Antoine Beaupre wrote: >> I see that Hiera in Puppet is at version 3.2.0 in buster. That's at >> least two minor versions behind upstream, which is (unofficially) at >> 3.5: >> >> https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera/releases >> >> That said, Hiera itself is deprecated as a standalone system: Hiera 5 >> has been part of Puppet since 4.9: >> >> https://puppet.com/docs/hiera/3.3/index.html >> >> The Hiera README on GitHub says the same: >> >> https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera/blob/master/README.md >> >> "This project is deprecated in favor of Hiera version 5 which is >> implementation in Puppet." >> >> Since Buster will likely ship with Puppet 5.5 (or later), it doesn't >> seem to make sense to ship Hiera in buster and it should be >> removed. It could also be removed from unstable as well, but I wanted >> to checkin with maintainers here first before filing a formal removal. > > Puppet currently lists `hiera` (3) as a runtime dependency in its > gemspec[1]. This is to provide backward compatibility until users > manually upgrade[2] their Puppet manifests, as Hiera 3 and Hiera 5 are > incompatible. > > Since Hiera 5 was introduced after Stretch was released, we should keep > plain `hiera` around for Buster to allow users to upgrade in a > non-disruptive fashion. Of course we should document all of this on the > release notes :) > > I'm lowering severity to non-RC, but keeping the bug around with an > updated title so that we can remove hiera after Buster's release. Awesome, thanks for the update and your work! A. -- We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free. - Bill Hicks
Bug#924409: removing hiera from debian? or do not ship with buster
Control: severity -1 important Control: tags -1 - buster Control: retitle -1 hiera should be removed after Buster is released Hi, On 13:07 Tue 12 Mar , Antoine Beaupre wrote: > I see that Hiera in Puppet is at version 3.2.0 in buster. That's at > least two minor versions behind upstream, which is (unofficially) at > 3.5: > > https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera/releases > > That said, Hiera itself is deprecated as a standalone system: Hiera 5 > has been part of Puppet since 4.9: > > https://puppet.com/docs/hiera/3.3/index.html > > The Hiera README on GitHub says the same: > > https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera/blob/master/README.md > > "This project is deprecated in favor of Hiera version 5 which is > implementation in Puppet." > > Since Buster will likely ship with Puppet 5.5 (or later), it doesn't > seem to make sense to ship Hiera in buster and it should be > removed. It could also be removed from unstable as well, but I wanted > to checkin with maintainers here first before filing a formal removal. Puppet currently lists `hiera` (3) as a runtime dependency in its gemspec[1]. This is to provide backward compatibility until users manually upgrade[2] their Puppet manifests, as Hiera 3 and Hiera 5 are incompatible. Since Hiera 5 was introduced after Stretch was released, we should keep plain `hiera` around for Buster to allow users to upgrade in a non-disruptive fashion. Of course we should document all of this on the release notes :) I'm lowering severity to non-RC, but keeping the bug around with an updated title so that we can remove hiera after Buster's release. Thanks, Apollon [1] https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/.gemspec#L35 [2] https://puppet.com/docs/puppet/5.3/hiera_migrate.html
Bug#924409: removing hiera from debian? or do not ship with buster
Package: hiera Version: 3.2.0-2 Severity: serious I see that Hiera in Puppet is at version 3.2.0 in buster. That's at least two minor versions behind upstream, which is (unofficially) at 3.5: https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera/releases That said, Hiera itself is deprecated as a standalone system: Hiera 5 has been part of Puppet since 4.9: https://puppet.com/docs/hiera/3.3/index.html The Hiera README on GitHub says the same: https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera/blob/master/README.md "This project is deprecated in favor of Hiera version 5 which is implementation in Puppet." Since Buster will likely ship with Puppet 5.5 (or later), it doesn't seem to make sense to ship Hiera in buster and it should be removed. It could also be removed from unstable as well, but I wanted to checkin with maintainers here first before filing a formal removal. Thanks for your work! -- System Information: Debian Release: buster/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental'), (1, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=fr_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=fr_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages hiera depends on: ii ruby 1:2.5.1 ii ruby-deep-merge 1.1.1-1 ii ruby-json2.1.0+dfsg-2+b1 hiera recommends no packages. Versions of packages hiera suggests: pn mcollective-common pn puppet-common -- debconf-show failed
