Bug#938157: [Python-modules-team] Bug#938157: python-scipy: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye

2020-01-14 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 9:08 PM Drew Parsons  wrote:
>
> On 2020-01-14 02:13, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> >> >It's just that there is no extra effort required in this case.
> >> >python3-scipy does indeed need the effort taken, but once that effort
> >> >is
> >> >done, it's no more effort to apply the same fix to python-scipy.  So
> >> >yes, please do focus on fixing python3-scipy! :)
> >>
> >> Yes, maybe so, but delaying the python2-rm blocks other work and thus
> >> delays and complicates getting that major effort completed.  Let's
> >> not.
> >
> > exactly, i really dont understand what's the value of fixing something
> > that's gonna be removed anyway.
> >
> > I think i'm just gonna wait a couple more days and then file a RM
>
> Fair enough then.  I'm out-voted :)

i pulled the trigger and opened #948946 :)

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Bug#938157: [Python-modules-team] Bug#938157: python-scipy: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye

2020-01-13 Thread Drew Parsons

On 2020-01-14 02:13, Sandro Tosi wrote:

>It's just that there is no extra effort required in this case.
>python3-scipy does indeed need the effort taken, but once that effort
>is
>done, it's no more effort to apply the same fix to python-scipy.  So
>yes, please do focus on fixing python3-scipy! :)

Yes, maybe so, but delaying the python2-rm blocks other work and thus 
delays and complicates getting that major effort completed.  Let's 
not.


exactly, i really dont understand what's the value of fixing something
that's gonna be removed anyway.

I think i'm just gonna wait a couple more days and then file a RM


Fair enough then.  I'm out-voted :)



Bug#938157: [Python-modules-team] Bug#938157: python-scipy: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye

2020-01-12 Thread Drew Parsons

On 2020-01-13 12:47, Sandro Tosi wrote:

Thanks Sandro.  There is RC bug#946624 affecting python-scipy, with a
counterpart in #946625 for python3-scipy.  Something subtle has 
changed

in the syntax for skipping tests, I haven't figured out what yet. Help
needed.

Since that problem needs to be fixed anyway for python3-scipy, I 
propose

dealing with that first before decommissioning python-scipy.  I expect
that whatever the fix is that's needed for python3-scipy, the same 
patch

will fix the tests for python-scipy.  That way we can put python-scipy
to sleep on a clean bed.


what is the benefit of fixing python-scipy, when we can remove it
right now? i feel like we could just focus on fixing python3-scipy and
use the time/effort for python-scipy for something else :)


It's just that there is no extra effort required in this case.  
python3-scipy does indeed need the effort taken, but once that effort is 
done, it's no more effort to apply the same fix to python-scipy.  So 
yes, please do focus on fixing python3-scipy! :)


Drew



Bug#938157: [Python-modules-team] Bug#938157: python-scipy: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye

2020-01-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:28:55 PM EST Drew Parsons wrote:
> On 2020-01-13 09:52, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> > we finally reach the point were src:python-scipy produces only leaf
> > binary packages (excluding packages that are not in testing because RC
> > already), so i think it's time to file for its removal, and continue
> > with src:scipy.
> > 
> > I've copied maintainers and Drew (whos been doing all the work
> > recently); if i dont receive a NACK within a week, i'll file for the
> > removal of src:python-scipy.
> 
> Thanks Sandro.  There is RC bug#946624 affecting python-scipy, with a
> counterpart in #946625 for python3-scipy.  Something subtle has changed
> in the syntax for skipping tests, I haven't figured out what yet. Help
> needed.
> 
> Since that problem needs to be fixed anyway for python3-scipy, I propose
> dealing with that first before decommissioning python-scipy.  I expect
> that whatever the fix is that's needed for python3-scipy, the same patch
> will fix the tests for python-scipy.  That way we can put python-scipy
> to sleep on a clean bed.

I don't follow this at all.  It sounds to me like you are suggesting not 
removing a package that is ready to be removed due to python2-rm until it can 
be fixed.  Any bugs on the python2 package are gone as soon as it is.  Please 
don't delay removing packages in order to fix them first.

Scott K

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Bug#938157: [Python-modules-team] Bug#938157: python-scipy: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye

2020-01-12 Thread Sandro Tosi
> Thanks Sandro.  There is RC bug#946624 affecting python-scipy, with a
> counterpart in #946625 for python3-scipy.  Something subtle has changed
> in the syntax for skipping tests, I haven't figured out what yet. Help
> needed.
>
> Since that problem needs to be fixed anyway for python3-scipy, I propose
> dealing with that first before decommissioning python-scipy.  I expect
> that whatever the fix is that's needed for python3-scipy, the same patch
> will fix the tests for python-scipy.  That way we can put python-scipy
> to sleep on a clean bed.

what is the benefit of fixing python-scipy, when we can remove it
right now? i feel like we could just focus on fixing python3-scipy and
use the time/effort for python-scipy for something else :)

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