Bug#942550: Move /usr/sbin/sendmail symlink to mstmp package

[El boulangero]

> msmtp-mta ships a minimal smtp daemon but it is (normally and on purpose)
> disabled by default so there is no daemon listening unless you enable it.

Ah indeed, that was not immediately clear to me. I just installed
msmtp-mta. The service is indeed disabled by default.

Thanks,

  Arnaud

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 2:59 PM Emmanuel Bouthenot 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:36:17PM +0700, elboulang...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is there anything wrong with the approach that Flavio suggests? It
> > also makes sense to me.
> msmtp-mta was created so that msmtp could be installed in parallel of a
> real MTA (see: #396527)
>
> > I'm considering to simply do `ln -sr /usr/bin/msmtp
> > /usr/sbin/sendmail` instead of installing msmtp-mta, because indeed, I
> > don't need a SMTP server, I just want to use msmtp as a drop-in
> > replacement for sendmail.
> That's the goal of msmtp-mta: provides sendmail compatibility without
> having to create symlinks manually.
>
> msmtp-mta ships a minimal smtp daemon but it is (normally and on purpose)
> disabled by
> default so there is no daemon listening unless you enable it.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Emmanuel Bouthenot
>   mail: kolter@{openics,debian}.orggpg: 4096R/0x929D42C3
>   xmpp: kol...@im.openics.org  irc: kolter@{freenode,oftc}
>

Bug#942550: Move /usr/sbin/sendmail symlink to mstmp package

[Emmanuel Bouthenot]

Hi,

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:36:17PM +0700, elboulang...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with the approach that Flavio suggests? It
> also makes sense to me.
msmtp-mta was created so that msmtp could be installed in parallel of a
real MTA (see: #396527)

> I'm considering to simply do `ln -sr /usr/bin/msmtp
> /usr/sbin/sendmail` instead of installing msmtp-mta, because indeed, I
> don't need a SMTP server, I just want to use msmtp as a drop-in
> replacement for sendmail.
That's the goal of msmtp-mta: provides sendmail compatibility without
having to create symlinks manually.

msmtp-mta ships a minimal smtp daemon but it is (normally and on purpose) 
disabled by
default so there is no daemon listening unless you enable it.

Regards,

-- 
Emmanuel Bouthenot
  mail: kolter@{openics,debian}.orggpg: 4096R/0x929D42C3
  xmpp: kol...@im.openics.org  irc: kolter@{freenode,oftc}

Bug#942550: Move /usr/sbin/sendmail symlink to mstmp package

[elboulangero]

Is there anything wrong with the approach that Flavio suggests? It also makes 
sense to me.

I'm considering to simply do `ln -sr /usr/bin/msmtp /usr/sbin/sendmail` instead 
of installing msmtp-mta, because indeed, I don't need a SMTP server, I just 
want to use msmtp as a drop-in replacement for sendmail.

Thanks,

  Arnaud

Bug#942550: Move /usr/sbin/sendmail symlink to mstmp package

[Flavio Veloso]

Package: mstmp-mta
Version: 1.8.3-1
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

The /usr/sbin/sendmail symlink that points to /usr/bin/msmtp should be 
created by the "msmtp" package, not by "msmtp-mta". Rationale:


1. In msmtp context, the "/usr/sbin/sendmail" path represents only the 
MUA side of the email system -- and the MUA is in the "msmtp" package


2. /usr/bin/msmtp belongs to "msmtp" (not "-mta"), which is a hint about #1

3. People that just want to send emails using msmtp indirectly, either 
by using a mailx package or by invoking /usr/sbin/sendmail directly, 
would only need the msmtp package (provided that they have a properly 
/etc/msmtprc file properly set up). They should not need to install the 
-mta package, because they do not need any daemon to listen on SMTP ports


4. This will make msmtp a drop-in replacement for the now unsupported ssmtp

Thoughts?

--
FV