Bug#962488: fonts-tlwg: description should explain when TTF vs. OTF is more suitable
Hi Theppitak, Quoting Theppitak Karoonboonyanan (2020-12-24 10:49:07) > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:51 AM Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > fonts-tlwg are provided as both Truetype and Opentype, > > but package descriptions lack any mention of when either format is > > more suitable. > > > > Maybe Truetype fonts include hinting omitted from Opentype fonts. > > Maybe Opentype fonts include feature sets lacking in Truetype fonts. > > Maybe they are technically equal but consuming applications vary > > in their support for accessing all features of either format. > > > > Please add mention of which format is better when. > > They are supposed to provide the same typographical features, > except for the underlying CFF and TTF glyph formats. > > I'm about to add this paragraph to 'fonts-thai-tlwg' package > description: > > Every font in this package is provided in TrueType and OpenType > formats for users to choose to suit their needs. Both formats are > maintained to provide the same glyph set, glyph design, and > typographical features, except that curves and hints are defined in > CFF format for the OpenType version, and in TTF format for the > TrueType version. > > Do you think it's sufficient? Or should I try to evaluate the current > quality of both formats as rendered by FreeType? > > To my personal taste, the OpenType version used to be inferior, until > the FreeType CFF rendering improvement was contributed by Adobe. And > now I prefer the OpenType version personally. The TrueType hinting, > however, is based purely on FontForge auto-instruction, no manual > tuning. I think your proposed text is great! I don't think it is suitable to include info on how well each each curve formats are rendered - such text belong at the various renderers (most notably libfreetype, but maybe also libSDL and others), and vary as those renderers evolve and with how they are used. Thanks! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Bug#962488: fonts-tlwg: description should explain when TTF vs. OTF is more suitable
Hi Jonas, On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:51 AM Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > fonts-tlwg are provided as both Truetype and Opentype, > but package descriptions lack any mention of when either format is more > suitable. > > Maybe Truetype fonts include hinting omitted from Opentype fonts. > Maybe Opentype fonts include feature sets lacking in Truetype fonts. > Maybe they are technically equal but consuming applications vary > in their support for accessing all features of either format. > > Please add mention of which format is better when. They are supposed to provide the same typographical features, except for the underlying CFF and TTF glyph formats. I'm about to add this paragraph to 'fonts-thai-tlwg' package description: Every font in this package is provided in TrueType and OpenType formats for users to choose to suit their needs. Both formats are maintained to provide the same glyph set, glyph design, and typographical features, except that curves and hints are defined in CFF format for the OpenType version, and in TTF format for the TrueType version. Do you think it's sufficient? Or should I try to evaluate the current quality of both formats as rendered by FreeType? To my personal taste, the OpenType version used to be inferior, until the FreeType CFF rendering improvement was contributed by Adobe. And now I prefer the OpenType version personally. The TrueType hinting, however, is based purely on FontForge auto-instruction, no manual tuning. Regards, -- Theppitak Karoonboonyanan http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:51 AM Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Source: fonts-tlwg > Version: 1:0.7.2-1 > Severity: normal > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi, > > fonts-tlwg are provided as both Truetype and Opentype, > but package descriptions lack any mention of when either format is more > suitable. > > Maybe Truetype fonts include hinting omitted from Opentype fonts. > Maybe Opentype fonts include feature sets lacking in Truetype fonts. > Maybe they are technically equal but consuming applications vary > in their support for accessing all features of either format. > > Please add mention of which format is better when. > > > - Jonas > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEn+Ppw2aRpp/1PMaELHwxRsGgASEFAl7eeUcACgkQLHwxRsGg > ASFAow//TW1tdBZozMKIMmQuN5RIXr+4V9/UQ3MSKYAwRCXSwYbSqCqqJ2NrASDe > wTcH0lioDQkxcN44jah86DD1kkCUEvONL6KkFSv/6uaTYkX2g94+1rMjvXVdrKjf > mlTnXDcLZRNpjPtY3u6fODzicqDhz8ohbgIBZKCebEqKc/YXpXVdmgFPVfUmpN/i > hUd4fUXEhqrAE9F3evhjLwAYm2BneeJ9n5x7rdP6/Gkq/zn1BUkF18oEYgffxNJ7 > hHlfHtsbAbCKtj50Xjsomuf0De7WQXef84Y2HqLTdR2UAm5yWePy2R/OKDGuAdqU > aBdmcn7iip8ZWI5sy5xLxE+2BWqN9JQeDQ4RIRmfmM65U10Rx5300O/Od9kLy1Ii > OcTAvIlwlpeGXju6dNAGy8t6MWnL61aAq6R44wD38UuM46Zc660lmjFQX4UOrQZ2 > QgqgzT/sl9ni/i5gC/e2tTPJaKk/LaUF9EbjNHf0cNleQGcEt2DdV1QJyj3kTH6L > gg/3wy8Q8xOXwuGXwweHK4eu3N95vanSB0ZUTYINy6YnFda6nLdLlZfgVc573Lj5 > 5O9UdSxMmHxMwyB9RZJwndxrd8bmHzWetKn/pncSzEkLQxPY9xdB8m17+FwfMANY > f4/e3L1NHcEc595NUDw6jVw6fj8Ca7cORZGgHISUqirEzV3lPmg= > =Z2vI > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Theppitak Karoonboonyanan http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS d(+) s:- a C++ UL P-@ L+++ E--- W+++ N o? K? w-- !O !M V? PS(+) PE-- Y(-) PGP++ t? 5? X+ R- tv+ b++ DI D-- G e++ h-- r? y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Bug#962488: fonts-tlwg: description should explain when TTF vs. OTF is more suitable
Source: fonts-tlwg Version: 1:0.7.2-1 Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, fonts-tlwg are provided as both Truetype and Opentype, but package descriptions lack any mention of when either format is more suitable. Maybe Truetype fonts include hinting omitted from Opentype fonts. Maybe Opentype fonts include feature sets lacking in Truetype fonts. Maybe they are technically equal but consuming applications vary in their support for accessing all features of either format. Please add mention of which format is better when. - Jonas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEn+Ppw2aRpp/1PMaELHwxRsGgASEFAl7eeUcACgkQLHwxRsGg ASFAow//TW1tdBZozMKIMmQuN5RIXr+4V9/UQ3MSKYAwRCXSwYbSqCqqJ2NrASDe wTcH0lioDQkxcN44jah86DD1kkCUEvONL6KkFSv/6uaTYkX2g94+1rMjvXVdrKjf mlTnXDcLZRNpjPtY3u6fODzicqDhz8ohbgIBZKCebEqKc/YXpXVdmgFPVfUmpN/i hUd4fUXEhqrAE9F3evhjLwAYm2BneeJ9n5x7rdP6/Gkq/zn1BUkF18oEYgffxNJ7 hHlfHtsbAbCKtj50Xjsomuf0De7WQXef84Y2HqLTdR2UAm5yWePy2R/OKDGuAdqU aBdmcn7iip8ZWI5sy5xLxE+2BWqN9JQeDQ4RIRmfmM65U10Rx5300O/Od9kLy1Ii OcTAvIlwlpeGXju6dNAGy8t6MWnL61aAq6R44wD38UuM46Zc660lmjFQX4UOrQZ2 QgqgzT/sl9ni/i5gC/e2tTPJaKk/LaUF9EbjNHf0cNleQGcEt2DdV1QJyj3kTH6L gg/3wy8Q8xOXwuGXwweHK4eu3N95vanSB0ZUTYINy6YnFda6nLdLlZfgVc573Lj5 5O9UdSxMmHxMwyB9RZJwndxrd8bmHzWetKn/pncSzEkLQxPY9xdB8m17+FwfMANY f4/e3L1NHcEc595NUDw6jVw6fj8Ca7cORZGgHISUqirEzV3lPmg= =Z2vI -END PGP SIGNATURE-