Bug#982144: php-klogger: Useless in Bullseye
Hi Paul, On 2/7/21 2:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi James, > > On 07-02-2021 18:23, James Valleroy wrote: >> It has no dependencies in Buster, so there is no reason for an end user to >> install it. >> >> A PHP developer could use the package though. But I think they are more >> likely to use composer to download/install what they need. > > So, you're saying it was useless to ship in buster? > Yes, it was useless to ship in buster. Regards, James OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#982144: php-klogger: Useless in Bullseye
[James Valleroy] > Yes, it was useless to ship in buster. While I can not vouch for php-klogger, I do know as a Debian user that I often are pleasently surprised to find libraries I need for software packages not currently in Debian. Such library might lack reverse dependencies in the Debian archive, but still provide value to the users that need it. :) This make it very hard to verify if a package is truly useless to ship in a stable release. :) -- Vennlig hilsen Petter Reinholdtsen
Bug#982144: php-klogger: Useless in Bullseye
On 2/7/21 2:54 AM, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi James, > > On Sat, 06 Feb 2021 15:10:04 -0500 James Valleroy >> This is a dependency only for shaarli, which will not be included in >> Bullseye. > > We already shipped this package in buster. Do you really think it's > useless for users there without shaarli? Is it enough useless to not > ship it? It has no dependencies in Buster, so there is no reason for an end user to install it. A PHP developer could use the package though. But I think they are more likely to use composer to download/install what they need. I opened bugs like this for all the dependencies of shaarli, after discussion in #980134. Do you agree with this approach in general? Regards, James OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#982144: php-klogger: Useless in Bullseye
Hi James, On 07-02-2021 18:23, James Valleroy wrote: > It has no dependencies in Buster, so there is no reason for an end user to > install it. > > A PHP developer could use the package though. But I think they are more > likely to use composer to download/install what they need. So, you're saying it was useless to ship in buster? > I opened bugs like this for all the dependencies of shaarli, after discussion > in #980134. > Do you agree with this approach in general? You may have noticed (or may do so tomorrow ;)) that I already removed all those packages. I refrained from this one because it's shipped with buster. Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#982144: php-klogger: Useless in Bullseye
Hi James, On Sat, 06 Feb 2021 15:10:04 -0500 James Valleroy > This is a dependency only for shaarli, which will not be included in Bullseye. We already shipped this package in buster. Do you really think it's useless for users there without shaarli? Is it enough useless to not ship it? Paul PS: not subscribed, CC me if I should read the reply OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#982144: php-klogger: Useless in Bullseye
Package: php-klogger Version: 1.2.1-4 Severity: serious X-Debbugs-Cc: jvalle...@mailbox.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 This is a dependency only for shaarli, which will not be included in Bullseye. - -- System Information: Debian Release: bullseye/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_WARN, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages php-klogger depends on: ii php-common 2:76 ii php-psr-log 1.1.3-2 php-klogger recommends no packages. php-klogger suggests no packages. - -- no debconf information -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJKBAEBCgA0FiEEfWrbdQ+RCFWJSEvmd8DHXntlCAgFAmAe95wWHGp2YWxsZXJv eUBtYWlsYm94Lm9yZwAKCRB3wMdee2UICBQjD/9si/XKAxhW+g70D28ayVKLiQMR 7TFgUUEQiSHsKxnALQYMajzqu6/j33RPOPwoVfSkd1/Dl/BMMZAqXDfytJ3b7Hm8 HYluRt4uB8eoW1XvD8wDzgDZh84CSFcvD6FjpM9xhOhVf58uVl0UEFQlEs+HOUS9 rkd9dvheNSk+kjSqqy4ikpwOdbYxms/2Vz2NFXT4IGHVax0MIw0fD4S6twOuaJzc R5PkffPBnmF+YEAPqwG41K55VC51PG/SCpMNucm3UZxclGb2tTQY5i0v/2vJsMMB 9DrJE3uzTR3oBsTnBlPlaHvAAo3Mkg2uIvXJj9choXt9eyUoVd7N/8PLpX20uRyg fQgD9u9wLRlHKQKLIeL81mwPVUycv6dqR3rUhNNbR2NlHxSNpqFdJCkUt/zsNR7V rtDsMTOqDfFFSOwHlU5rgblfMkEpmqBT/NANH+m/zeTIk/TAkf3U5AtODoxrt6SI FBvGHapQj3rc6tUj4tNW/YSZywBR8BNUK7wcGZOhb5C2LFrvNSX7940uPIHyocuL TohbLDCW5zEc7DvGKqGKd6YoNyO7ooVReyG48jiFl7EJD8/kxrpQQJYYIw588Jif VI7ABoJ0uum+DkGFaeBy/W2K1hdXUff4LjKZVWXdP0aZv5YXj8xyOa0W2LI4nwVN 3N1l0gAb89wb9xwjkQ== =0qBA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
