Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Jérémy Lal]

Le lun. 9 janv. 2023 à 23:19, Olly Betts  a écrit :

> Hi Jérémy,
>
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 09:31:45AM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> > as a Debian Games Team maintained package, I could do a team upload
> > very soon.
>
> Are you still intending to upload dolphin-emu?  In order to be in
> the bookworm release it would need to reenter testing by 2023-02-12:
>
> https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html#summary
>
> I think a package needs to actually *migrate* by that cut-off date, so
> the upload deadline is really 2/5/10 days earlier depending on whether
> there are autopkgtests, etc.
>


Yes, actually I tried, only to discover it's an incredibly difficult task
to cover
in such a short time. I'd rather not let dolphin-emu go to bookworm, and
keep
working slowly on it for trixie.

Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Olly Betts]

Hi Jérémy,

On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 09:31:45AM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> as a Debian Games Team maintained package, I could do a team upload
> very soon.

Are you still intending to upload dolphin-emu?  In order to be in
the bookworm release it would need to reenter testing by 2023-02-12:

https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html#summary

I think a package needs to actually *migrate* by that cut-off date, so
the upload deadline is really 2/5/10 days earlier depending on whether
there are autopkgtests, etc.

Cheers,
Olly

Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Jérémy Lal]

Source: dolphin-emu
Version: 5.0+dfsg-6
Followup-For: Bug #986739

Hi there,

as a Debian Games Team maintained package, I could do a team upload very soon.

Jérémy


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Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Aloïs Micard]

Control: noowner 986739
Control: noowner 976530

Hello there,

I'm 100% with you on packaging the beta version on Debian. But sadly I have no 
time for Debian lately due to my new job position.
I shouldn't have own the bug for this long, it's my fault. If anyone want to 
work on this and needs sponsoring I can still do it tho.

Cheers,


On 4/1/22 07:04, Andres Cimmarusti wrote:

Any update about this? I'm afraid that at this rate there won't be any package 
by the time Debian 12 enters freeze.

I've tested building the beta snapshots and they are quite reliable (on 
bullseye). I don't understand what's the problem with packaging them.
This is done all the time in Debian, for example "black" a python code auto 
formatter was in beta for a couple of Debian releases (including buster and Bullseye)
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=black=names=all=all 


I hope we can see the dolphin-emu packages in Debian again.

Best regards,
Andrés


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Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Andres Cimmarusti]

Any update about this? I'm afraid that at this rate there won't be any
package by the time Debian 12 enters freeze.

I've tested building the beta snapshots and they are quite reliable (on
bullseye). I don't understand what's the problem with packaging them.
This is done all the time in Debian, for example "black" a python code auto
formatter was in beta for a couple of Debian releases (including buster and
Bullseye)
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=black=names=all=all

I hope we can see the dolphin-emu packages in Debian again.

Best regards,
Andrés

Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Aloïs Micard]

Control: owner -1 !

On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 21:34:27 +0200 =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_Noel?= 
 wrote:

Package: src:dolphin-emu
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

The current dolphin-emu packages lacks almost 5 years of upstream 
improvements.

I know that technically there isn't any new upstream release,
but my feeling is that this is getting ridiculous.

The current package has lots of bugs regarding the usage of a real 
wiimote,

lots of games are unplayable, the GUI is antique
(upstream switched to QT5 3 years ago), etc...
Current documentation and user expectations are way out of line
with the state of the official debian package stuck at the 5.0 release.

If you agree with me that an update is welcome, I'm not coming empty 
handed,

I did my homework, I can share my current progress,
but I struggled on 2 points:
* some embedded libs (FreeSurround, minizip, ...) are more up2date
   in the tarball than the debian packaged version, so I used the bundled 
one

* updating the d/copyright file is a real pain
This is clearly not "release material" but it's a start:
https://twolife.be/debian/pool/main/d/dolphin-emu/

Thanks for reading up to this point.

Best Regards,
Sébastien




Hello Sébastien,

There's currently bug #976530 [1] which is preventing dolphin-emu from reaching
testing since 2021-01-05. This bug has been fixed upstream way looong ago.

We are trying to fix it by backporting a patch, but I think more and more
that packaging a new upstream version would do the trick and greatly improve
the package.

I'm in the process of contacting upstream to make them reconsider their release
policy, I don't think we can hope for upstream to release 6.0, but maybe 
introducing
release candidate or anything like that based on their beta version, so that 
every
distro may pick up these sort of 'pre stable' version and keep up-to-date with 
the
features while having some sort of 'increased stability'. Currently the version 
of
dolphin-emu packaged across distro is totally scattered [2].

Let's see how it goes! Otherwise we can always try to package a beta version 
and upload
it to experimental.

Thanks for your work! It will greatly help if we decide to package new upstream 
version!


Cheers,

[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/976530
[2]: https://repology.org/project/dolphin-emu/versions

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Bug#986739: is it possible to package new upstream "snapshot" ?

[Sébastien Noel]

Package: src:dolphin-emu
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

The current dolphin-emu packages lacks almost 5 years of upstream 
improvements.

I know that technically there isn't any new upstream release,
but my feeling is that this is getting ridiculous.

The current package has lots of bugs regarding the usage of a real 
wiimote,

lots of games are unplayable, the GUI is antique
(upstream switched to QT5 3 years ago), etc...
Current documentation and user expectations are way out of line
with the state of the official debian package stuck at the 5.0 release.

If you agree with me that an update is welcome, I'm not coming empty 
handed,

I did my homework, I can share my current progress,
but I struggled on 2 points:
* some embedded libs (FreeSurround, minizip, ...) are more up2date
  in the tarball than the debian packaged version, so I used the bundled 
one

* updating the d/copyright file is a real pain
This is clearly not "release material" but it's a start:
https://twolife.be/debian/pool/main/d/dolphin-emu/

Thanks for reading up to this point.

Best Regards,
Sébastien