Bug#992524: deborphan: missing orphaner

2021-09-13 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler 
* Christophe Lohr  [210913 08:18]:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 02:34:52 +0200 Chris Hofstaedtler 
> wrote:
> > The changelog explicitly said:
> > > * Remove orphaner, editkeep
> 
> Are these tools (orphaner editkeep) packaged elsewhere?
> are there recommended front-ends?

With the current state of deborphan, frontends will do more harm
than good. At this time you really have to understand the inner
details of Debian packages, their relationships and also deborphan
itself. Everything around deborphan has evolved a lot, but deborphan
did not catch up, and is now a really low-level tool.

Frontends that make deborphan look like an easy to use and safe tool
are tricking their users.

I would advise possible front-end authors to implement their own
safe policies around package removal suggestions, and not use
deborphan as a data source.

Chris

Bug#992524: deborphan: missing orphaner

2021-09-13 Thread Christophe Lohr 
On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 02:34:52 +0200 Chris Hofstaedtler 
wrote:
> * Jan De Luyck  [210819 20:57]:
> > After upgrading to deborphan 1.7.34 (after bullseye release) I
noticed that the
> > orphaner binary is no longer being included.
>
> The changelog explicitly said:
> > * Remove orphaner, editkeep

Are these tools (orphaner editkeep) packaged elsewhere?
are there recommended front-ends?

Best regards
Christophe

Bug#992524: deborphan: missing orphaner

2021-08-19 Thread Jan De Luyck 
Package: deborphan
Version: 1.7.34
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

After upgrading to deborphan 1.7.34 (after bullseye release) I noticed that the
orphaner binary is no longer being included.

There's no mention of it in the changelog, nor is there another package. Is it 
just a case of MIA?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 11.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-8-rt-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_BE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_BE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), 
LANGUAGE=en_BE:en
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages deborphan depends on:
ii  libc6  2.31-16

Versions of packages deborphan recommends:
ii  apt   2.3.8
ii  dialog1.3-20201126-1
ii  gettext-base  0.21-4

deborphan suggests no packages.

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