Bug#996569: OT: Roland Puntaier / "getmail6" drama

2021-10-29 Thread Charles Cazabon
Sudip Mukherjee  wrote:
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> Marking this bug as serious and the binary packages should be removed
> in the next 30 days.

Thank you.

Charles
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Bug#996569: OT: Roland Puntaier / "getmail6" drama

2021-10-29 Thread Sudip Mukherjee
Control: severity -1 serious
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On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:09 AM Charles Cazabon
 wrote:
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> Gary R. Schmidt  wrote:
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> And Debian, you're supposed to be about doing the ethical thing.  "getmail6"
> and having it as a silent "upgrade" that replaces getmail betrays the trust of
> getmail's users, and drags the good reputation of getmail through the mud.

Marking this bug as serious and the binary packages should be removed
in the next 30 days.
Feel free to close this bug when you and Roland have resolved your
differences and users start complaining about getmail not available in
Debian.


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Bug#996569: OT: Roland Puntaier / "getmail6" drama

2021-10-28 Thread Charles Cazabon
Gary R. Schmidt  wrote:
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> And we - the people who are using getmail in a mission-critical environment
> - are the ones who get buggered by people forking and *not* changing the
> name.

^^ This, exactly, and I couldn't have put it better myself.

I have had numerous help/support/question contacts over "getmail6".

Not one of them even knew what "getmail6" was, or that they were using
"getmail6", or that getmail had been removed from their systems during an
OS upgrade and replaced with a badly-done fork.

Not. A. Single. One.

So if Roland or his enablers think they'll just use my project name for their
fork, work to name/package-squat on getmail so "getmail6" gets installed
instead, and then claim that "continuity for the users" justifies their...
well, the closest word I know for it is piracy, in the traditional nautical
sense ... well, that's a bunch of crap.

You know how getmail users want their "continuity"?  To not have getmail
ripped out from underneath them and replaced with something that is
deliberately trying to deceive people into thinking it is my project.

Roland, renaming your fork is both the ethical thing to do, and the right
thing to do.  Most people who fork a project do it without even needing to be
asked.  Please do the right thing, here.

And Debian, you're supposed to be about doing the ethical thing.  "getmail6"
and having it as a silent "upgrade" that replaces getmail betrays the trust of
getmail's users, and drags the good reputation of getmail through the mud.

Please change the name of this package and its executable.

Charles
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