Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
severity 998386 normal retitle 998386 Plasma gets very slow when compositor is disabled on bare metal thanks Hi Chris, > Indeed, turning that switch to on and restarting helps. Great!!! Bingo. > I cannot remeber that I ever turned it on or off. But I guess you had, or some cosmic radiation induced bit switch did it for you on your hard disk ;-) The default for all installations is being on. > However, if I turn it back to off, then the problems come back (immedeiately). > So at least the latter seems to be a bug, right? Not really sure. Nowadays running without compositor might not really be possible. I don't have an opinion on that. > In my similar kvm virtualized installtion the switch also is/was off, > but there it seems to make no problems, even after a couple of changes and > restartings. Hmm, that is indeed strange, though. Anyway, I retitle and adjust severity of the bug for now. I suggest that *you* create a bug report at upstream (I guess kwin?) because I cannot reproduce it on my systems (AMD based), and upstream devs will need detailed informations. Best Norbert -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Fujitsu Research + IFMGA Guide + TU Wien + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
Hi Norbert, thanks to your repsonse! > Can you try/check the following: > * In the Plasma Settings app, go to > Display and Monitor > Compositor > and check whether > Enable compositor on startup > is selected (on). Indeed, turning that switch to on and restarting helps. Great!!! I cannot remeber that I ever turned it on or off. However, if I turn it back to off, then the problems come back (immedeiately). So at least the latter seems to be a bug, right? (Personally I would not need any 3d effects). In my similar kvm virtualized installtion the switch also is/was off, but there it seems to make no problems, even after a couple of changes and restartings. > Also the rendering backend etc is an important information. Same on bare metal and in vm: skaling method: exact redering backend: OpenGL 3.1 latency: Balance of latency and smoothness tearing: automatic holding available window preview images: only for visible windows allow applications to block compositing: enabled > If the above (after logout/login, or better reboot) does not help: > * Is the behaviour reproducible with a **clean** **new** user? Yes, as turning on Enable compositor on startup immediately helped, I did not try that. Chris
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
Hi Chris, On Thu, 04 Nov 2021, Chris Nospam wrote: > Today all packages of plasma 5.23 migrated to testing, and it works fine in > my (libvirt) vm. However, on bare metal mesa makes problems (see my bug > report #998386), so in fact there plasma 5.23 stays unusable. That bug is not reproducible on any of my bare metal systems. Can you try/check the following: * In the Plasma Settings app, go to Display and Monitor > Compositor and check whether Enable compositor on startup is selected (on). Also the rendering backend etc is an important information. If the above (after logout/login, or better reboot) does not help: * Is the behaviour reproducible with a **clean** **new** user? Thanks Norbert -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Fujitsu Research + IFMGA Guide + TU Wien + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
Today all packages of plasma 5.23 migrated to testing, and it works fine in my (libvirt) vm. However, on bare metal mesa makes problems (see my bug report #998386), so in fact there plasma 5.23 stays unusable.
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
I can confirm this. Upgrade of KDE on testing is totally broken at the moment. On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:57:47 +0200 Chris Nospam wrote: > KDE/Plasma (package dependencies) are currently completely broken under testing. Is there currently a chance to (somehow simply) block the partial transition of plasma 5.23 to testing (so that not related package updates are easy)? Selectively upgrading single packages with dependencies one after the other from the mass provided in testing is rather cumbersome. > > Currently I get the following (sorry for the german locale): > > root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig > Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig > Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig > Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig > Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: > libkdecorations2private9 > Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade): > bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-gtk-theme drkonqi > kactivitymanagerd kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates > kde-style-breeze kgamma5 kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass > kwayland-integration kwin-style-breeze kwrited libkdecorations2-5v5 > libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 milou > oxygen-sounds plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks > plasma-integration plasma-pa polkit-kde-agent-1 > 31 aktualisiert, 1 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. > Es müssen 96,2 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden. > Nach dieser Operation werden 47,1 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt. > Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] n > Abbruch. > > All packages shown above are from version 4:5.23.0 whereas the others would stay on 4:5.21.x. Unfortunately, it is not sufficient to set libkdecorations2-5v5 on hold, as it would remove plasma-desktop: > > root@xxx:~# apt-mark hold libkdecorations2-5v5 > libkdecorations2-5v5 auf Halten gesetzt. > root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig > Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig > Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig > Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig > Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt: > accountsservice apt-config-icons-hidpi apt-config-icons-large > apt-config-icons-large-hidpi bluedevil bluez bluez-obexd breeze-gtk-theme > bup bup-doc gtk2-engines-pixbuf ibus-data ieee-data kde-config-gtk-style > kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates kgamma5 khotkeys khotkeys-data > kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen kup-backup kwrited libaccountsservice0 > libibus-1.0-5 libkpmcore11 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libscim8v5 > libxcb-record0 oxygen-sounds par2 partitionmanager plasma-desktop-data > plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks python3-fuse > python3-pylibacl python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip python3-pyxattr > python3-software-properties python3-tornado qml-module-org-kde-activities > qml-module-org-kde-kcm qml-module-org-kde-kitemmodels smartmontools > software-properties-common software-properties-kde systemsettings > xsettings-kde > Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen. > Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT: > kde-plasma-desktop plasma-desktop > Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden: > breeze breeze-cursor-theme kde-config-gtk-style kde-style-breeze > kwin-style-breeze libkdecorations2-5v5 plasma-integration > Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade): > bluedevil breeze-gtk-theme drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-config-sddm > kde-config-updates kgamma5 kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass > kwayland-integration kwrited libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 > libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 milou oxygen-sounds plasma-discover > plasma-discover-common plasma-disks plasma-pa polkit-kde-agent-1
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
OK, if you cannot tell when - that is OK. But HOW do we get to know when the fixes (semm to be plenty) are released to bookworm ??? /René On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:57:47 +0200 Chris Nospam wrote: > KDE/Plasma (package dependencies) are currently completely broken under testing. Is there currently a chance to (somehow simply) block the partial transition of plasma 5.23 to testing (so that not related package updates are easy)? Selectively upgrading single packages with dependencies one after the other from the mass provided in testing is rather cumbersome. > > Currently I get the following (sorry for the german locale): > > root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig > Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig > Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig > Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig > Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: > libkdecorations2private9 > Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade): > bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-gtk-theme drkonqi > kactivitymanagerd kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates > kde-style-breeze kgamma5 kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass > kwayland-integration kwin-style-breeze kwrited libkdecorations2-5v5 > libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 milou > oxygen-sounds plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks > plasma-integration plasma-pa polkit-kde-agent-1 > 31 aktualisiert, 1 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. > Es müssen 96,2 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden. > Nach dieser Operation werden 47,1 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt. > Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] n > Abbruch. > > All packages shown above are from version 4:5.23.0 whereas the others would stay on 4:5.21.x. Unfortunately, it is not sufficient to set libkdecorations2-5v5 on hold, as it would remove plasma-desktop: > > root@xxx:~# apt-mark hold libkdecorations2-5v5 > libkdecorations2-5v5 auf Halten gesetzt. > root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig > Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig > Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig > Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig > Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt: > accountsservice apt-config-icons-hidpi apt-config-icons-large > apt-config-icons-large-hidpi bluedevil bluez bluez-obexd breeze-gtk-theme > bup bup-doc gtk2-engines-pixbuf ibus-data ieee-data kde-config-gtk-style > kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates kgamma5 khotkeys khotkeys-data > kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen kup-backup kwrited libaccountsservice0 > libibus-1.0-5 libkpmcore11 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libscim8v5 > libxcb-record0 oxygen-sounds par2 partitionmanager plasma-desktop-data > plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks python3-fuse > python3-pylibacl python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip python3-pyxattr > python3-software-properties python3-tornado qml-module-org-kde-activities > qml-module-org-kde-kcm qml-module-org-kde-kitemmodels smartmontools > software-properties-common software-properties-kde systemsettings > xsettings-kde > Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen. > Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT: > kde-plasma-desktop plasma-desktop > Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden: > breeze breeze-cursor-theme kde-config-gtk-style kde-style-breeze > kwin-style-breeze libkdecorations2-5v5 plasma-integration > Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade): > bluedevil breeze-gtk-theme drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-config-sddm > kde-config-updates kgamma5 kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass > kwayland-integration kwrited libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 > libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 milou oxygen-sounds plasma-discover > plasma-discover-common plasma-disks plasma-pa polkit-kde-agent-1 -- Med venlig hilsen/kind regards René Lagoni Neukirch Højenhald 1, 2. th 2700 Brønshøj Mob. 2093 1904
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
KDE/Plasma (package dependencies) are currently completely broken under testing. Is there currently a chance to (somehow simply) block the partial transition of plasma 5.23 to testing (so that not related package updates are easy)? Selectively upgrading single packages with dependencies one after the other from the mass provided in testing is rather cumbersome. Currently I get the following (sorry for the german locale): root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: libkdecorations2private9 Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade): bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-gtk-theme drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates kde-style-breeze kgamma5 kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass kwayland-integration kwin-style-breeze kwrited libkdecorations2-5v5 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 milou oxygen-sounds plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks plasma-integration plasma-pa polkit-kde-agent-1 31 aktualisiert, 1 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. Es müssen 96,2 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden. Nach dieser Operation werden 47,1 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt. Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] n Abbruch. All packages shown above are from version 4:5.23.0 whereas the others would stay on 4:5.21.x. Unfortunately, it is not sufficient to set libkdecorations2-5v5 on hold, as it would remove plasma-desktop: root@xxx:~# apt-mark hold libkdecorations2-5v5 libkdecorations2-5v5 auf Halten gesetzt. root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt: accountsservice apt-config-icons-hidpi apt-config-icons-large apt-config-icons-large-hidpi bluedevil bluez bluez-obexd breeze-gtk-theme bup bup-doc gtk2-engines-pixbuf ibus-data ieee-data kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates kgamma5 khotkeys khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen kup-backup kwrited libaccountsservice0 libibus-1.0-5 libkpmcore11 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libscim8v5 libxcb-record0 oxygen-sounds par2 partitionmanager plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks python3-fuse python3-pylibacl python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip python3-pyxattr python3-software-properties python3-tornado qml-module-org-kde-activities qml-module-org-kde-kcm qml-module-org-kde-kitemmodels smartmontools software-properties-common software-properties-kde systemsettings xsettings-kde Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen. Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT: kde-plasma-desktop plasma-desktop Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden: breeze breeze-cursor-theme kde-config-gtk-style kde-style-breeze kwin-style-breeze libkdecorations2-5v5 plasma-integration Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade): bluedevil breeze-gtk-theme drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-config-sddm kde-config-updates kgamma5 kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass kwayland-integration kwrited libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 milou oxygen-sounds plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-disks plasma-pa polkit-kde-agent-1 24 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 2 zu entfernen und 7 nicht aktualisiert. Es müssen 14,9 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden. Nach dieser Operation werden 14,9 MB Plattenplatz freigegeben. Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] n Abbruch. When will it be save to switch to 5.23 in testing, or what could be the indicator to do that? When kwin 5.23 will be available in the testing repos? Or would you be so kind to post a corresponding message, e.g., here? Tanks, Chris
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
Hi Patrick, > as of 2021-10-17T06:09:05+00:00 Debian testing contains 4:5.23.0-2, although > the rest of Plasma is still on 5.21. Therefore, apt update installs Umpf, indeed. The Breaks are not strict enough. Fixed in git. Thanks for the report. We will not be able to fix that for those who are already on testing with the lib, but wafter the next upload it shouldn't happen for other users anymore. Thanks. Norbert -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Fujitsu Research + IFMGA Guide + TU Wien + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Bug#996670: libkdecorations2-5v5 migrated to testing too early breaking Plasma
Package: libkdecorations2-5v5 Version: 4:5.23.0-2 Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole system Dear Maintainer, as of 2021-10-17T06:09:05+00:00 Debian testing contains 4:5.23.0-2, although the rest of Plasma is still on 5.21. Therefore, apt update installs libkdecorations2-5v5=4:5.23.0-2 which breaks login and renders the computer useless for normal users. A downgrade to version 4:5.21.5-2 fixes the problem. Of course, you could also argue that normal users should not run testing and I am sure this bug gets fixed implicitly when the rest of Plasma migrates, so severity normal would also be sensible, depending on how you look at it. Fixing these kind of transition problems can safe a lot of users' time and therefore encourage more advanced users to run testing and report real bugs early on and therefore reduce freeze time. This is closely related to #974112, but as #974112 is specific to an older transition, I wanted to create a generic bug report. I am not sure, how the fix ideally should look like, but it most likely includes either a (versioned) dependency or a conflict. Kind regards Patrick -- System Information: Debian Release: bookworm/sid APT prefers stable-security APT policy: (900, 'stable-security'), (900, 'testing'), (800, 'stable'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (400, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 5.14.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=de:en_US Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) Versions of packages libkdecorations2-5v5 depends on: ii libc6 2.32-4 ii libkdecorations2private8 4:5.21.5-2 ii libkf5i18n5 5.86.0-1 ii libqt5core5a 5.15.2+dfsg-12 ii libqt5gui55.15.2+dfsg-12 ii libstdc++611.2.0-9 libkdecorations2-5v5 recommends no packages. libkdecorations2-5v5 suggests no packages. -- no debconf information
