Bug#1017829: elpa-ess: emacs-gtk 28.1 install fails with installed elpa-ess
Salut Seb, On 15 October 2022 at 10:16, Sébastien Villemot wrote: | Thank you for your feedback, and for the good work you put into this | package over the years! | | I’m going to take it over as you suggest. Awesome! As an Emacs user I look forward to many more years with ESS on Debian and Ubuntu and I will join Camm in the ranks for 'former ESS maintainers' :) You know where upstream lives, and may already be on the low-volume ess-help (and/or ess-announce) list(s) but it may make sense to lurk. Cheers, Dirk -- dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org
Bug#1017829: elpa-ess: emacs-gtk 28.1 install fails with installed elpa-ess
Le vendredi 14 octobre 2022 à 13:33 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel a écrit : > On 14 October 2022 at 20:10, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > > Le dimanche 21 août 2022 à 09:17 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel a écrit : > > > That is a problem, and it is somewhat know. ESS used to release every > > > six or > > > so months, now we are many years behind with no official release. Your > > > best > > > bet may be to install directly from melpa and removing the package. > > > > > > I will bring this to the ESS list but last time this was brought up > > > everybody > > > more or less agreed but no release tarball was made because "it's > > > complicated". > > > > Would you be willing to consider shipping a snapshot of the git > > repository (as is available on MELPA)? This would be a temporary > > solution until upstream finally makes a formal release. Otherwise it > > looks like ESS will not be part of bookworm… > > Correct. > > See https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/ess-help/2022-September/thread.html > and _many_ earlier threads over the years bemoaning (in more polite words) > the irritating stale mate among that team and the inability to make a release > for four years now. (Mailmain archives are a pain to search but you know how > to condition a search engine to a site etc.) > > > Shipping a git snapshot is established practice in Debian, especially > > for situations like the present one. > > > > I am willing to help if needed. > > I don't actually speak (e)lisp so I cannot help, and I have no appetite > getting into issues with upstream. > > If you want to take over the package, I would welcome that and happily pass > it on to you. I was care taker for a while, but it may be time to pass that > torch on. Thank you for your feedback, and for the good work you put into this package over the years! I’m going to take it over as you suggest. Amicalement, -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Sébastien Villemot ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Developer ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://sebastien.villemot.name ⠈⠳⣄ https://www.debian.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#1017829: elpa-ess: emacs-gtk 28.1 install fails with installed elpa-ess
Salut Seb, On 14 October 2022 at 20:10, Sébastien Villemot wrote: | Hi Dirk! | | Le dimanche 21 août 2022 à 09:17 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel a écrit : | > That is a problem, and it is somewhat know. ESS used to release every six or | > so months, now we are many years behind with no official release. Your best | > bet may be to install directly from melpa and removing the package. | > | > I will bring this to the ESS list but last time this was brought up everybody | > more or less agreed but no release tarball was made because "it's complicated". | | Would you be willing to consider shipping a snapshot of the git | repository (as is available on MELPA)? This would be a temporary | solution until upstream finally makes a formal release. Otherwise it | looks like ESS will not be part of bookworm… Correct. See https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/ess-help/2022-September/thread.html and _many_ earlier threads over the years bemoaning (in more polite words) the irritating stale mate among that team and the inability to make a release for four years now. (Mailmain archives are a pain to search but you know how to condition a search engine to a site etc.) | Shipping a git snapshot is established practice in Debian, especially | for situations like the present one. | | I am willing to help if needed. I don't actually speak (e)lisp so I cannot help, and I have no appetite getting into issues with upstream. If you want to take over the package, I would welcome that and happily pass it on to you. I was care taker for a while, but it may be time to pass that torch on. Amicalement, Dirk -- dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org
Bug#1017829: elpa-ess: emacs-gtk 28.1 install fails with installed elpa-ess
Hi Dirk! Le dimanche 21 août 2022 à 09:17 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel a écrit : > That is a problem, and it is somewhat know. ESS used to release every six or > so months, now we are many years behind with no official release. Your best > bet may be to install directly from melpa and removing the package. > > I will bring this to the ESS list but last time this was brought up everybody > more or less agreed but no release tarball was made because "it's > complicated". Would you be willing to consider shipping a snapshot of the git repository (as is available on MELPA)? This would be a temporary solution until upstream finally makes a formal release. Otherwise it looks like ESS will not be part of bookworm… Shipping a git snapshot is established practice in Debian, especially for situations like the present one. I am willing to help if needed. Best wishes, -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Sébastien Villemot ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Developer ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://sebastien.villemot.name ⠈⠳⣄ https://www.debian.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part