Bug#242866: Closure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 04:11:15PM -0700, Larry Doolittle wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 02:57:05PM +, maximilian attems wrote: As expected none of the vocal minority, aka Mr. Nerode and Mr. Doolittle, demanding DFSG freeness helped to work out this transition nor to cleanup the created mess. IANADD, and never pretend to be. I help out as much as I can [*], and if you don't like me acting as a messenger in this case, tough noogies. I didn't write the DFSG. The real blame here lies with Linus's historical sloppiness in accepting non-DFSG-free code. I hear he has improved his process this past couple of years. Rest assured that max speaks on behalf of the Debian _kernel_ team, not all of Debian. With this I do not mean to say that I disagree with max' interpretation of the DFSG or dislike his hard work on maintaining the kernel - only that I (and others, I suspect) dislike his way of treating those being so kind as to help filing bugreports with our system. - Jonas Former member of the kernel team - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ - Enden er nær: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFILTcLn7DbMsAkQLgRAnogAJ9P0K8vwJEeCPKTF0pl3zEJEG8rQwCfVazk EG3mMYMxCjq605jSVlXwkgY= =ay/z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242866: Closure
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:26:03AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Rest assured that max speaks on behalf of the Debian _kernel_ team, not all of Debian. No, he speaks on behalf of himself. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242866: Closure
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:29:10AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:26:03AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Rest assured that max speaks on behalf of the Debian _kernel_ team, not all of Debian. No, he speaks on behalf of himself. Well, together with waldi, he is the kernel team, or what is left of it. And since waldi doesn't speak much, ... Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242866: Closure
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 02:57:05PM +, maximilian attems wrote: The Debian Kernel Team is guilty of uploading a disjointed kernel. For the record Bastian Blank coded the infrastructure for the stripping and the stripping itself. [chop] In the long run it might be a win for Free Software - history will tell. In the short term this is an annoyance for existing hardware driver support. I want to publicly congratulate the entire Kernel team for their efforts, both on the firmware problem, and all the other issues that come with dealing with such a large code base. The results are real and appreciated. As expected none of the vocal minority, aka Mr. Nerode and Mr. Doolittle, demanding DFSG freeness helped to work out this transition nor to cleanup the created mess. IANADD, and never pretend to be. I help out as much as I can [*], and if you don't like me acting as a messenger in this case, tough noogies. I didn't write the DFSG. The real blame here lies with Linus's historical sloppiness in accepting non-DFSG-free code. I hear he has improved his process this past couple of years. - Larry Doolittle [*] and yes, that includes developing, debugging, and releasing Free Software, not just complaining. Anyone with two minutes and Google can confirm that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]