Bug#331418: Bug #331418: php4-pear-log: ELICENSE - licensed under non-free The PHP License, version 2.02

2005-12-04 Thread Jon Parise
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:30:07PM +0100, Stefano Melchior wrote:

  An updated PHP license[1] has just become available which should
  address Debian's concerns.  I'll try to put together an updated
  package some time over the long weekend (it's a holiday here in the
  US).
  
  [1] http://us3.php.net/license/3_01.txt
  
 I am very please that you answered for me and all the Debian users.
 I know that the license problem is frustrating and somehow a bad issue,
 but Debian has got a coherent (in my opinion) way to treat the software.
 I am going to investigate and analyze your link futher more and possibly
 ask for a support by the more competent guys (than me).
 Let's keep in touch and I wish you also a good vacation

Sorry again for the late response.

I have made the package explicitly reference the 3.01 version of the
PHP License.  (It was referring to PHP License before, so that
should have been enough to imply the latest version, but now the
reference is explicit.)

It seems some people still have a problem with this clause:

  6. Redistributions of any form whatsoever must retain the following
 acknowledgment:
 This product includes PHP software, freely available from
 http://www.php.net/software/.

At this point, I'm not interested in relicensing the package under
anything but the PHP License because it means tracking down four years
worth of contributors.  If you guys have a problem with the 3.01
license, you'll have to conveince the PHP Group to release one that is
more to your liking as opposed to bugging PEAR developers who might be
in a position similar to mine (lots of contributors).

Good luck!

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Bug#331418: Bug #331418: php4-pear-log: ELICENSE - licensed under non-free The PHP License, version 2.02

2005-11-24 Thread Stefano Melchior
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 12:26:45PM -0500, Jon Parise wrote:
Dear Jon,
  I am a bit frustrated because I can not image what to do with the problem
  in object. Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] reported a bug:
  
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=331418
  
  which stops my Intention to upgrade the package for Debian, since there is
  a License problem.
  Can you please explain if it is a real problem, or if your intention to
  maintain/use this license is compatible with the package?
  
 An updated PHP license[1] has just become available which should
 address Debian's concerns.  I'll try to put together an updated
 package some time over the long weekend (it's a holiday here in the
 US).
 
 Sorry for taking so long to get back to you on this.  These kinds of
 requests honestly aren't too high on my global priority list, and the
 fact that most PEAR developers have recently been hit by a wave of
 similar requests by Debian people has caused many of us to just ignore
 the issue.  I don't run Debian (or Linux, for that matter), and the
 fact that it's the only distribution that has a problem with the
 current licensing hasn't done much for my motivation to change things.
 
 [1] http://us3.php.net/license/3_01.txt
 
I am very please that you answered for me and all the Debian users.
I know that the license problem is frustrating and somehow a bad issue,
but Debian has got a coherent (in my opinion) way to treat the software.
I am going to investigate and analyze your link futher more and possibly
ask for a support by the more competent guys (than me).
Let's keep in touch and I wish you also a good vacation

Cheers

SteX

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Bug#331418: php4-pear-log: ELICENSE - licensed under non-free The PHP License, version 2.02

2005-10-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Package: php4-pear-log
Severity: serious

Sorry, but the license doesnt really fit the package. You have a php
addon thing, using PHP license 2.02, but unfortunately for you this
license cant really be used with anything else than PHP itself.

It always only talks about the product PHP, not about software.
And php-whatever isnt really PHP from the PHP group.
Point 5 in the older version 2) is also an advertisement clause.
Bad thing which is usually discouraged.

And, at the end there is the following text:
---
This software consists of voluntary contributions made by many
individuals on behalf of the PHP Group.
The PHP Group can be contacted via Email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more
information on the PHP Group and the PHP project, please see
http://www.php.net. This product includes the Zend Engine, freely
available at http://www.zend.com.
---
I doubt that your package is made on behalf of the PHP group. Or that
it includes the Zend Engine.

As a good solution for this I suggest to talk to your upstream. Looking
at the license they choosed they do want to make it available for
everyone, so I suggest to use either the original BSD license or the
LGPL.

The other solution is to reassign this bug to ftp.debian.org requesting
the removal of this package.

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