Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Hi Frank, On Di, 24 Jun 2008, Frank Küster wrote: Well, I'm always for ask first, drop later. But if there was some upstream discussion which lead to its removal, I don't think we should keep it (since it would mean we have to take care for new upstream versions etc.). Ok, so then I remove it? Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- WHISSENDINE (n.) The noise which occurs (often by night) in a strange house, which is too short and too irregular for you ever to be able to find out what it is and where it comes from. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, On Di, 24 Jun 2008, Frank Küster wrote: Well, I'm always for ask first, drop later. But if there was some upstream discussion which lead to its removal, I don't think we should keep it (since it would mean we have to take care for new upstream versions etc.). Ok, so then I remove it? Yes, please. Frank -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
On Mi, 25 Jun 2008, Frank Küster wrote: Yes, please. Already committed. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BANFF Pertaining to, or descriptive of, that kind of facial expression which is impossible to achieve except when having a passport photograph taken. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have checked out the revision. There is only a small problem here that leads me to believe removing the catalogue might be the better option (it is anyway removed upstream from texlive AFAIR) Ah, I didn't know that. More work for texdoc.tlu - while I hate being shown the Catalogue page if the package documenation has a generic name like manual.pdf, I think it *is* useful when there's nothing available. The problem is that the gencat.py script in src is actually GPL, but the used tcutils.py only contains # (C) COPYRIGHT # Togaware 2004 All rights are reserved. # # Authors: Graham Williams which is not really optimal. [...] Should we ask Graham to fix that and give us a statement, or just remove the Catalogue??? Well, I'm always for ask first, drop later. But if there was some upstream discussion which lead to its removal, I don't think we should keep it (since it would mean we have to take care for new upstream versions etc.). Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Frank Küster scripsit (24.06.2008 22:07) Ah, I didn't know that. More work for texdoc.tlu - while I hate being shown the Catalogue page if the package documenation has a generic name like manual.pdf, I think it *is* useful when there's nothing available. Same here. And the catalogue page is sometimes a good way to find the actual doc, using the (non-working) documentation link to find the right name. Anyway, Karl wants to remove the catalogue, for the two following reasons (unless I misunderstood him) : (a) it gets outdated very fast and makes a few Mb, which slows down the updates (b) we have a lot of information from the Catalogue in texlive.tlpdb. When I asked him about that, he suggested that when no documentation is found, texdoc prints a message with a link to the package's page on ctan (or the search page in case no package is found on ctan). That's what texdoc does now, but I don't know if Karl already arranged the redirection. Any comments or ideas welcome. Anyway, since we have the project to enable using texlive.tlpdb from texdoc, this problem should not last very long. (There will be other problems, like what do we do with packages from the catalogue with no corresponding TL package, for example when they are parts of bundles...) Manuel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Hi all, On Do, 19 Jun 2008, Frank K?ster wrote: - TeX Catalogue, source at cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/texcatalogue export -r HEAD texcatalogue Bit of digging showed: texlive-svn revision 3843 from 2007-02-01 00:27:31 +0100, Karl updated the catalogue in the texlive repository So that gives a tex catalogue revision of around 7900 r7901 | robin | 2007-02-01 13:43:16 +0100 r7900 | schoepf | 2007-02-01 10:01:50 +0100 Upload r7899 | robin | 2007-02-01 01:03:34 +0100 r7898 | robin | 2007-01-31 23:38:14 +0100 The 7900 is tagged with Upload, so I would take that revision as the source. Ok, I have checked out the revision. There is only a small problem here that leads me to believe removing the catalogue might be the better option (it is anyway removed upstream from texlive AFAIR) The problem is that the gencat.py script in src is actually GPL, but the used tcutils.py only contains # (C) COPYRIGHT # Togaware 2004 All rights are reserved. # # Authors: Graham Williams which is not really optimal. There are more scripts like that, but they are not needed, and gencat.py contains a GPL statement. Should we ask Graham to fix that and give us a statement, or just remove the Catalogue??? Best wishes Norbert PS: Adding the stuff to the .dfsg .orig.tar.gz would be quite easy by dropping it into trunk/orig.tar.gz-addons/texlive-doc/WHEREEVER (since the file is not used at all, WHEREEVER can be everywhere). --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- GIPPING (participial vb.) The fish-like opening and closing of the jaws seen amongst people who have recently been to the dentist and are puzzled as to whether their teeth have been put back the right way up. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Hi,
I'm a bit surprised by two of the problems. Indeed, on my Lenny box, I can
see the following files:
Frank Küster a écrit :
- tds.pdf, source at
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-en/english/tds/tds.tex.gz
- The UK TUG faq, source at
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-en/english/FAQ-en/faqbody.tex.gz
Those files look like the sources, don't they? Did I miss something?
- TeX Catalogue, source at
cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/texcatalogue export -r HEAD
texcatalogue
This one is not up to date. I never used cvs so I don't know how to look at
the log, but as a random test you can see that lots of recent entries
(say, xetex{-def,fontconfig,-greek,-pstricks}) are missing.
Manuel.
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Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Manuel Pegourie-Gonnard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a bit surprised by two of the problems. Indeed, on my Lenny box, I can see the following files: Frank Küster a écrit : - tds.pdf, source at /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-en/english/tds/tds.tex.gz - The UK TUG faq, source at /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-en/english/FAQ-en/faqbody.tex.gz Those files look like the sources, don't they? Did I miss something? Sorry, no - I just forgot to check for this. - TeX Catalogue, source at cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/texcatalogue export -r HEAD texcatalogue This one is not up to date. The current location is svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/ctan/texcatalogue_svn/trunk Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Package: texlive-doc-en Version: 2007-4 Severity: serious This has already been reported in #345604, but not yet addressed for TeXLive. I promised not to create more accumulative bugs, but this is a bit different: This bug is going to collect all issues from #345604 which - are still open in TeXLive - where the only problem is that the source is missing - but the source is available elsewhere. I suggest that it should be fixed a) upstream by generating a tarball for these files, which is not going to be included in the TeXLive iso, unless Upstream wants it, too b) generating a new Debian source package from this tarball. Since the new upstream version is just about to be released and is not going to be included in lenny, we have to decide whether we want to fix it by creating our own source tarball for lenny, or instead consider an lenny-ignore tag. Regards, Frank -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable'), (99, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-686 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) Versions of packages texlive-doc-en depends on: ii texlive-common2007-14TeX Live: Base component ii texlive-doc-base 2007-4 TeX Live: Base documentation texlive-doc-en recommends no packages. Versions of packages tex-common depends on: ii debconf 1.5.11etch1 Debian configuration management sy ii ucf 2.0020 Update Configuration File: preserv Versions of packages texlive-doc-en is related to: pn tetex-basenone (no description available) ii tetex-bin 2007-14TeX Live: teTeX transitional packa ii tetex-extra 2007-14TeX Live: teTeX transitional packa ii tex-common1.10 common infrastructure for building -- debconf information: tex-common/check_texmf_wrong: tex-common/check_texmf_missing: -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#487149: texlive-doc-en: Source missing for some documentation files
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - are still open in TeXLive - where the only problem is that the source is missing - but the source is available elsewhere. - TeX Catalogue, source at cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/texcatalogue export -r HEAD texcatalogue - tds.pdf, source at http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/tds/ - The UK TUG faq, source at http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/uk-tex-faq/ -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
