Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi,

Mathieu Parent wrote:
 I'm not DD so I can't provide support for this, I just made hard work
 to make these
 packages ready and it is sad to finish like this. Packages are ready
 for experimental since
 March (see 
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kolab-devel/2008-March/001523.html)
 and for unstable since June
 (http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kolab-devel/2008-June/001682.html).

Ugh. It really stinks to put in all the work in a timely fashion and
then have it ignored until it's too late. :(

On the other hand, unless the release team wants to make a huge
exception for kolabd and one of the maintainers actually can be bothered
to upload the packages, removing these:

 So nevermind, in case you want to remove this mess, remove the
 following packages
 from lenny:
 kolab-filter
 kolab-freebusy
 kolab-resource-handlers
 kolab-webadmin
 kolabadmin
 kolabconf
 kolabd
 libkolab-perl

and possibly providing backports after the release might be the more
viable option to move things forward from here.

Kind regards

T.

P.S.: Depending on how long you have been involved in kolab-maintenance,
asking the uploaders to enable you to upload via the Debian Maintainer
process might be a good idea to prevent things like this in the future.
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Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-10-01 Thread Mathieu Parent
Hi,

2008/10/1 Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 (...)
 Ugh. It really stinks to put in all the work in a timely fashion and
 then have it ignored until it's too late. :(
I probably should have send a mail to debian-devel. But my experience
of mentoring is not good (see package xinha in debian mentors).


 On the other hand, unless the release team wants to make a huge
 exception for kolabd and one of the maintainers actually can be bothered
 to upload the packages, removing these:

Agree.

 So nevermind, in case you want to remove this mess, remove the
 following packages
 from lenny:
 kolab-filter
 kolab-freebusy
 kolab-resource-handlers
 kolab-webadmin
 kolabadmin
 kolabconf
 kolabd
 libkolab-perl

 and possibly providing backports after the release might be the more
 viable option to move things forward from here.
Agree

 Kind regards

 T.

 P.S.: Depending on how long you have been involved in kolab-maintenance,
 asking the uploaders to enable you to upload via the Debian Maintainer
 process might be a good idea to prevent things like this in the future.
I should start the Debian Maintainer process for ctdb also (I'm in
the NM process too).

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Mathieu Parent



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Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-10-01 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Mathieu Parent [Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:49:51 +0200]:

 Hi,

Hello,

  On the other hand, unless the release team wants to make a huge
  exception for kolabd and one of the maintainers actually can be bothered
  to upload the packages, removing these:

 Agree.

  So nevermind, in case you want to remove this mess, remove the
  following packages
  from lenny:
  kolab-filter
  kolab-freebusy
  kolab-resource-handlers
  kolab-webadmin
  kolabadmin
  kolabconf
  kolabd
  libkolab-perl

Okay, I've marked these packages for removal (except kolab-filter and
kolab-freebusy, which were not in testing).

Thanks,

P.S.: I'm sorry that it was to be this way. Good luck with getting DM
access, so that you can more usefully take good care of these packages!

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- I just caught Tara laughing with another man.
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Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-09-30 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi,

Mathieu Parent wrote:
 tags 498202 + pending

 The corrected packages are ready since some month, but as I'm not DD,
 I can't upload.
If you cannot upload and have not been able to sponsor these packages
for months, it might not be as pending as setting the tag suggests.

 So if somebody want to upload the packages, and also if the release
 team agree to unfroze kolabd, libkolab-perl, kolab-webadmin,kolabconf
 and (new) php-kolab.

 The major problem is that it is another kolab version (2.2) but
 version 2.1 doesn't work with openldap 2.4 so this is the only way to
 get kolab in lenny.

Are you quite sure that putting a completely different upstream version
in lenny more than two months into the freeze amounts to a plan? In
particular if you're in the if the release team agree state of
affairs. In the end it might be advisable to target reinclusion of
kolabd, libkolab-perl, kolab-webadmin, and kolabconf for squeeze.

Kind regards

T.
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Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-09-30 Thread Mathieu Parent
Hi,


2008/9/30 Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Mathieu Parent wrote:
 tags 498202 + pending

 The corrected packages are ready since some month, but as I'm not DD,
 I can't upload.
 If you cannot upload and have not been able to sponsor these packages
 for months, it might not be as pending as setting the tag suggests.

I mark the bug pending because it is fixed in svn. It was not uploaded
because of lack of time from Peter and other members of the pkg-kolab
team. That's why some of the 2.2 packages are already uploaded. Of course
the packages need review and this step is not finished.

 So if somebody want to upload the packages, and also if the release
 team agree to unfroze kolabd, libkolab-perl, kolab-webadmin,kolabconf
 and (new) php-kolab.

 The major problem is that it is another kolab version (2.2) but
 version 2.1 doesn't work with openldap 2.4 so this is the only way to
 get kolab in lenny.

 Are you quite sure that putting a completely different upstream version
 in lenny more than two months into the freeze amounts to a plan? In
 particular if you're in the if the release team agree state of
 affairs. In the end it might be advisable to target reinclusion of
 kolabd, libkolab-perl, kolab-webadmin, and kolabconf for squeeze.

I'm not DD so I can't provide support for this, I just made hard work
to make these
packages ready and it is sad to finish like this. Packages are ready
for experimental since
March (see 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kolab-devel/2008-March/001523.html)
and for unstable since June
(http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kolab-devel/2008-June/001682.html).

So nevermind, in case you want to remove this mess, remove the
following packages
from lenny:
kolab-filter
kolab-freebusy
kolab-resource-handlers
kolab-webadmin
kolabadmin
kolabconf
kolabd
libkolab-perl

but keep this one:
kolab-cyrus-imapd


 Kind regards

 T.
 --
 Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/


Regards
Mathieu Parent



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Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-09-28 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi,

#49202 has been open for three weeks without maintainer response.
AFAIUI, kolabd has been broken by the libkolab-perl upload two weeks
before the freeze.
It's popcon is ~30, so it might be a candidate for lenny removal unless
the maintainers have a plan for fixing things.

Kind regards

T.
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Processed: Re: [pkg-kolab] Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

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Bug#498202: [pkg-kolab] Bug#498202: remove kolabd?

2008-09-28 Thread Mathieu Parent
tags 498202 + pending
thanks

Hi,

The corrected packages are ready since some month, but as I'm not DD,
I can't upload.

So if somebody want to upload the packages, and also if the release
team agree to unfroze kolabd, libkolab-perl, kolab-webadmin,kolabconf
and (new) php-kolab.

The major problem is that it is another kolab version (2.2) but
version 2.1 doesn't work with openldap 2.4 so this is the only way to
get kolab in lenny.

Regards

Mathieu Parent



2008/9/28 Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 #49202 has been open for three weeks without maintainer response.
 AFAIUI, kolabd has been broken by the libkolab-perl upload two weeks
 before the freeze.
 It's popcon is ~30, so it might be a candidate for lenny removal unless
 the maintainers have a plan for fixing things.

 Kind regards

 T.
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