Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-12-02 Thread Frank Habermann
Hi,

sorry for late replay. Lot of private work ;)

From my side it was all ok. Thanks for the work!

regards,
Frank

Am 30.11.2010 16:25, schrieb Didier 'OdyX' Raboud:
 Le Tuesday 23 November 2010 13:15:50 Frank Habermann, vous avez écrit :
 I have contacted moxiecode. The answer for the flv_player.swf is:
 It was never implemented. We are working on implementing it now though.
 So i think both files can be removed.

 regards,
 Frank
 
 Hi Frank, 
 
 I prepared an NMU for this bug (a simple repack without the two files), and 
 I'm 
 just waiting on one of my usual sponsors to pick it up.
 
 http://alioth.debian.org/~odyx-guest/debian/unstable/tinymce_3.3.8+dfsg0-0.1.dsc
 
 ^ What do you think ? Can we proceed (to DELAYED/2 e.g.) ?
 
 Cheers, 
 
 OdyX
 




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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-30 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le Tuesday 23 November 2010 13:15:50 Frank Habermann, vous avez écrit :
 I have contacted moxiecode. The answer for the flv_player.swf is:
 It was never implemented. We are working on implementing it now though.
 So i think both files can be removed.
 
 regards,
 Frank

Hi Frank, 

I prepared an NMU for this bug (a simple repack without the two files), and I'm 
just waiting on one of my usual sponsors to pick it up.

http://alioth.debian.org/~odyx-guest/debian/unstable/tinymce_3.3.8+dfsg0-0.1.dsc

^ What do you think ? Can we proceed (to DELAYED/2 e.g.) ?

Cheers, 

OdyX

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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-23 Thread Frank Habermann
Hi,

 $ find . -name *swf*
 ./jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/media/img/flv_player.swf
 ./examples/media/sample.swf

 How important are those files? Could those be replaced or removed without
 affecting application functionality?
 I found nothing about using the flv_player.swf in sources. Seems to be 
 obsolete.
 The sample.swf is only a flash file with the logo of moxiecode.
 This file is used for a sample flash insert. But it has no functionality.
 
 So i think both files can be removed but i will try to contact moxiecode to 
 clear that.
I have contacted moxiecode. The answer for the flv_player.swf is:
It was never implemented. We are working on implementing it now though.
So i think both files can be removed.

regards,
Frank



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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-22 Thread Frank Habermann
Hi,

 $ find . -name *swf*
 ./jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/media/img/flv_player.swf
 ./examples/media/sample.swf
 
 How important are those files? Could those be replaced or removed without
 affecting application functionality?
I found nothing about using the flv_player.swf in sources. Seems to be 
obsolete.
The sample.swf is only a flash file with the logo of moxiecode.
This file is used for a sample flash insert. But it has no functionality.

So i think both files can be removed but i will try to contact moxiecode to 
clear that.

regards,
Frank



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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-14 Thread Hector Oron
Hello,

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 04:35:53PM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:

 If I understand it correctly, it's just a plugin of tinymce in need of
 that flash player?  Then couldn't that plugin be moved to non-free (in a
 sepperate source package) so that a tinymce cleaned from this plugin
 could stay in main as well as the other packages?
 
$ find . -name *swf*
./jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/media/img/flv_player.swf
./examples/media/sample.swf

How important are those files? Could those be replaced or removed without 
affecting application functionality?

Cheers



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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-11 Thread Marcos Marado
flvplayer's website[1] was updated with a licence:

I get a few questions about what kind of license this player is released 
under. I donŽt know, really.
You can do pretty much whatever the hell you want with it as far as IŽm 
concerned ;) So use it for whatever, redistribute it, etc.
As long as you donŽt try to profit from/sell it in any way, itŽs probably 
fine. If you are unsure, just drop me a quick email. 

So, this is clearly non-free (you can't sell it), but distributable. Maybe 
this is enough to let us move tinymce to non-free and close this bug?

[1] http://oos.moxiecode.com/flvplayer/
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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-11 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!

Am 11.11.2010 16:11, schrieb Marcos Marado:
 flvplayer's website[1] was updated with a licence:
 
 I get a few questions about what kind of license this player is released 
 under. I donŽt know, really.
 You can do pretty much whatever the hell you want with it as far as IŽm 
 concerned ;) So use it for whatever, redistribute it, etc.
 As long as you donŽt try to profit from/sell it in any way, itŽs probably 
 fine. If you are unsure, just drop me a quick email. 
 
 So, this is clearly non-free (you can't sell it), but distributable. Maybe 
 this is enough to let us move tinymce to non-free and close this bug?
 
 [1] http://oos.moxiecode.com/flvplayer/

Yes, that makes it distributable for us, however:

$ apt-cache rdepends tinymce
tinymce
Reverse Depends:
  webgui
  citadel-webcit
  mahara
  horde3
  wordpress
  libwt21
  citadel-webcit
  roundcube-core
  python-django-tinymce
  knowledgeroot
  horde3

These packages would then need to be moved to contrib...

If I understand it correctly, it's just a plugin of tinymce in need of
that flash player?  Then couldn't that plugin be moved to non-free (in a
sepperate source package) so that a tinymce cleaned from this plugin
could stay in main as well as the other packages?


Best regards,
  Alexander



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Bug#591206: License updated (flvplayer)

2010-11-11 Thread Francois Marier
On 2010-11-11 at 16:35:53, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
 If I understand it correctly, it's just a plugin of tinymce in need of
 that flash player?  Then couldn't that plugin be moved to non-free (in a
 sepperate source package) so that a tinymce cleaned from this plugin
 could stay in main as well as the other packages?

What we've done upstream for Mahara is that we've removed the media player
from the tinymce source we bundle with Mahara. I suspect that a number of
the other rdeps might be fine with that if they don't use that part of
tinymce.

Moving tinymce to nonfree would likely cause the mahara package to start
using its own flvplayer-free bundled copy again which would be sub-optimal
from a security standpoint.

Has anybody tried to get tinymce to remove flvplayer upstream?

Cheers,
Francois



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