Bug#650975: marked as done (r8168: does not belong in a stable release)

2015-11-02 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Source: r8168
Severity: serious

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Hi,

I've been blocking this package from entering testing, but as Patrick
Matthäi questions that choice I'm filing this bug for the record.

It is my opinion, as a member of the release team, that we shouldn't
ship this package in stable.

This driver duplicates functionality available in the r8169 module in
the standard linux kernel, which is going to create a support burden,
the ITP was NAKed by the kernel maintainers, and apparently you agreed
in <4ebfcf49.5070...@abeckmann.de> to not let this enter wheezy.

Cheers,
Julien


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On 2015-06-24 10:32, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> On 2011-12-04 19:41, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> I've been blocking this package from entering testing, but as Patrick
>> Matthäi questions that choice I'm filing this bug for the record.
>>
>> It is my opinion, as a member of the release team, that we shouldn't
>> ship this package in stable.
>>
>> This driver duplicates functionality available in the r8169 module in
>> the standard linux kernel, which is going to create a support burden,
>> the ITP was NAKed by the kernel maintainers, and apparently you agreed
>> in <4ebfcf49.5070...@abeckmann.de> to not let this enter wheezy.
> 
> Since r8168 seems to apply binary patches to the firmware, the package
> has been moved to non-free.
> Can we close this bug now and let r8168 enter stretch/non-free?
> It's also much less intrusive w.r.t. in-tree r8169 than a few years ago
> (no more full blacklisting of r8169, just claims the subset of devices
> it supports).

Closing this bug now to let r8168 into stretch/non-free.


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Bug#650975: r8168: does not belong in a stable release

2015-06-24 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2011-12-04 19:41, Julien Cristau wrote:
 I've been blocking this package from entering testing, but as Patrick
 Matthäi questions that choice I'm filing this bug for the record.
 
 It is my opinion, as a member of the release team, that we shouldn't
 ship this package in stable.
 
 This driver duplicates functionality available in the r8169 module in
 the standard linux kernel, which is going to create a support burden,
 the ITP was NAKed by the kernel maintainers, and apparently you agreed
 in 4ebfcf49.5070...@abeckmann.de to not let this enter wheezy.

Since r8168 seems to apply binary patches to the firmware, the package
has been moved to non-free.
Can we close this bug now and let r8168 enter stretch/non-free?
It's also much less intrusive w.r.t. in-tree r8169 than a few years ago
(no more full blacklisting of r8169, just claims the subset of devices
it supports).


Andreas


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Bug#650975:

2012-06-10 Thread UndiFineD
hello all,

I got my hardware back from repairs for a mainboard replacement. (Asus
P8H67-M LE b3 rev)
To find out the r8169 driver is loaded on every distro i tried for my
r8111/8168b nic
apparently this is stopping me from using any kind of live cd / netinstall
only because some people think the r8169 duplicates functionality for the r8168.

so now I have 2 choices, doing a full downloaded install and fix
afterwards or steps like below:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42t=80757start=0sid=f0e920bc9ac7823b1a9443f2845b5ed0#p469071

is it really that important to reduce 600 kb of sourcecode that causes
issues for so many people ?

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Bug#650975: r8168: does not belong in a stable release

2011-12-04 Thread Julien Cristau
Source: r8168
Severity: serious

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Hi,

I've been blocking this package from entering testing, but as Patrick
Matthäi questions that choice I'm filing this bug for the record.

It is my opinion, as a member of the release team, that we shouldn't
ship this package in stable.

This driver duplicates functionality available in the r8169 module in
the standard linux kernel, which is going to create a support burden,
the ITP was NAKed by the kernel maintainers, and apparently you agreed
in 4ebfcf49.5070...@abeckmann.de to not let this enter wheezy.

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#650975: r8168: does not belong in a stable release

2011-12-04 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 04.12.2011 19:41, schrieb Julien Cristau:
 Source: r8168
 Severity: serious
 
 (x-debbugs-cc to pmatthaei and debian-release)
 
 Hi,

Hey, thanks for submitting!

 
 I've been blocking this package from entering testing, but as Patrick
 Matthäi questions that choice I'm filing this bug for the record.
 
 It is my opinion, as a member of the release team, that we shouldn't
 ship this package in stable.
 
 This driver duplicates functionality available in the r8169 module in
 the standard linux kernel, which is going to create a support burden,

From my point of view, there are this pros and cons for the driver:

Pros:
- It is free
- It is a working driver (mainline r8169 also covers those NICs, but it
is not working for years with specific NICs)
- Our users with such a crippled NIC could install this *alternative*
driver from our archive

Cons:
- Overlapping PCIIDs with r8169
- People simple switch to r8168 without reporting bugs (decreased
bugfixing on r8169)


Sure r8169 should be fixed in upstream, so that there is only one driver
and everyone is happy, but when it is fixed? Tomorrow or 2015? Who
knows. If someone has got a patch I would be happy to test it :)

For the time where it isn't fixed we (IMHO) should ship the driver with
our release(s) until r8169 is fixed or r8168 is in mainline (who knows..)

 the ITP was NAKed by the kernel maintainers, and apparently you agreed
 in 4ebfcf49.5070...@abeckmann.de to not let this enter wheezy.

I just want to note:
It is my personal motivation that we should release it (but there is
much time until the next release, so the situation could change), not
the motivation of Andreas Beckmann, I am doing it on my own.

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