Processed: Re: Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-06-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug #741196 [libpetsc3.4.2] libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both 
GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries
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Bug #741196 [libpetsc3.4.2] libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both 
GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries
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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-06-21 Thread Anton Gladky
severity 741196 important
tags 741196 +moreinfo
thanks

2014-06-21 16:34 GMT+02:00 Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org:
 In the absence of any reply from either the FTP Masters or Julien, I am
 raising the severity of this bug report back to serious and removing
 the moreinfo tag.

I disagree with that. That is the prerogative of maintainer to
set the bug`s severity (package is team-maintained).

Please have some patience and wait for an answer from
FTP-masters.

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Processed: Re: Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-06-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug #741196 [libpetsc3.4.2] libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both 
GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries
Severity set to 'important' from 'serious'
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Bug #741196 [libpetsc3.4.2] libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both 
GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries
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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-05-14 Thread Julien Cristau
Control: severity -1 important
Control: tags -1 moreinfo

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 00:41:10 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:

 On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:48:34 +0200 Julien Cristau wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 18:34:35 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
 [...]
   As already said in the original bug report, please see the almost
   identical bug #740463 for some further details about the SCOTCH
   licensing issues.
   
   I hope this clarifies.
   
  From what I understand CeCILL-C is intended to be more permissive than
  plain CeCILL, which itself is explicitly GPL-compatible.  So not really.
 
 Regardless of what the license is *intended* to be, CeCILL-C in fact
 includes restrictions not present in the GNU GPL and has no explicit
 conversion-to-GPL clause, unlike the CeCILL license.
 
 As a consequence, CeCILL-C really appears to be GPL-incompatible,
 unfortunately...
 
 
 Anyway, thanks for following up on this bug report of mine.
 And thanks for any help you may provide to fix the issue!
 
Since I disagree, I'd like you to get that confirmed in an authoritative
statement from ftpmaster.  In the meantime, I'll downgrade this bug.

Cheers,
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Processed: Re: Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-05-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug #741196 [libpetsc3.4.2] libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both 
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Bug #741196 [libpetsc3.4.2] libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both 
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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-05-13 Thread Julien Cristau
Control: tags -1 moreinfo

On Sun, Mar  9, 2014 at 22:26:06 +0100, Francesco Poli (wintermute) wrote:

   = libptscotch-5.1.so and libptscotcherr-5.1.so, which are released
  under the GPL-incompatible terms of the CeCILL-C v1.0 license
 
Do you have a reference for this claimed incompatibility?

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Processed: Re: Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

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Processed: Re: Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

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Processed: Re: Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-05-13 Thread Francesco Poli
Control: tags -1 - moreinfo


On Tue, 13 May 2014 11:37:17 +0200 Julien Cristau wrote:

[...]
 On Sun, Mar  9, 2014 at 22:26:06 +0100, Francesco Poli (wintermute) wrote:
 
= libptscotch-5.1.so and libptscotcherr-5.1.so, which are released
   under the GPL-incompatible terms of the CeCILL-C v1.0 license
  
 Do you have a reference for this claimed incompatibility?

As already said in the original bug report, please see the almost
identical bug #740463 for some further details about the SCOTCH
licensing issues.

I hope this clarifies.


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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-05-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 18:34:35 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:

 Control: tags -1 - moreinfo
 
 
 On Tue, 13 May 2014 11:37:17 +0200 Julien Cristau wrote:
 
 [...]
  On Sun, Mar  9, 2014 at 22:26:06 +0100, Francesco Poli (wintermute) wrote:
  
 = libptscotch-5.1.so and libptscotcherr-5.1.so, which are released
under the GPL-incompatible terms of the CeCILL-C v1.0 license
   
  Do you have a reference for this claimed incompatibility?
 
 As already said in the original bug report, please see the almost
 identical bug #740463 for some further details about the SCOTCH
 licensing issues.
 
 I hope this clarifies.
 
From what I understand CeCILL-C is intended to be more permissive than
plain CeCILL, which itself is explicitly GPL-compatible.  So not really.

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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-05-13 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:48:34 +0200 Julien Cristau wrote:

 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 18:34:35 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
  As already said in the original bug report, please see the almost
  identical bug #740463 for some further details about the SCOTCH
  licensing issues.
  
  I hope this clarifies.
  
 From what I understand CeCILL-C is intended to be more permissive than
 plain CeCILL, which itself is explicitly GPL-compatible.  So not really.

Regardless of what the license is *intended* to be, CeCILL-C in fact
includes restrictions not present in the GNU GPL and has no explicit
conversion-to-GPL clause, unlike the CeCILL license.

As a consequence, CeCILL-C really appears to be GPL-incompatible,
unfortunately...


Anyway, thanks for following up on this bug report of mine.
And thanks for any help you may provide to fix the issue!

Bye.


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Bug#741196: libpetsc3.4.2: libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries

2014-03-09 Thread Francesco Poli (wintermute)
Package: libpetsc3.4.2
Version: 3.4.2.dfsg1-6
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 2.3
User: debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Usertags: scotch-license-issues

Hello,
the library /usr/lib/libpetsc.so.3.4.2 links with:

  = libumfpack.so.5.6.2, which is under the GNU GPL v2 or later

  = libcholmod.so.2.1.2, which has parts under the GNU GPL v2 or later

  = libptscotch-5.1.so and libptscotcherr-5.1.so, which are released
 under the GPL-incompatible terms of the CeCILL-C v1.0 license

This seems to mean that package libpetsc3.4.2 includes a file which
links with both GPL-licensed and GPL-incompatible libraries.

Please refer to the almost identical bug #740463 for some further
details about the SCOTCH licensing issues.

I think the possible solutions to the issue for petsc are, in
descending order of desirability:

 (A) SCOTCH copyright holders should be contacted and persuaded to
re-license (or dual-license) it under GPLv2-or-later-compatible terms

 (B) SCOTCH should be substituted with a GPLv2-or-later-compatible
replacement, if any is available (METIS seems to be at least
GPLv3-or-later-compatible, see https://bugs.debian.org/740463#15 )

 (C) GPL-licensed library (such as UMFPACK and CHOLMOD) copyright
holders should be asked to relax the copyleft (for instance by switching
to the LGPL v2.1) or add license exceptions that give permission to link
their works with code released under CeCILL-C v1.0


As stated in other bug reports, the best solution is (A). Thus, I renew
my call for help to push in the direction of {re|dual}-licensing SCOTCH
under the GNU LGPL v2.1: please see https://bugs.debian.org/740463#5
for the details.

Thanks for your time!


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