Bug#745453: [libgcrypt20] Non free RFC

2014-07-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2014-04-22 bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com wrote:
 Package: libgcrypt20
 Version: 1.6.1-2
 Severity: serious
 User: debian-rele...@lists.debian.org
 Usertags: nonfree-doc rfc
 control: block 745409 by -1
 control: clone -1 -2
 control: reassign -2 libgcrypt11
 control: found -2 1.5.3-4 

 Hi!

 This source package contains the following files from the
 IETF under non-free license terms:

 cipher/crc.c

 The license on RFC/I-Ds is not DFSG-free, see:

  * http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments
  * http://bugs.debian.org/199810
[...]

Hello,

I have taken another look at this and still have no idea whether this
bug is even valid.

Both rfc-editor.org and www.ietf.org still distribute RFC 1952
with the following copyright statement and license:
--
   Copyright (c) 1996 L. Peter Deutsch

   Permission is granted to copy and distribute this document for any
   purpose and without charge, including translations into other
   languages and incorporation into compilations, provided that the
   copyright notice and this notice are preserved, and that any
   substantive changes or deletions from the original are clearly
   marked.

   A pointer to the latest version of this and related documentation in
   HTML format can be found at the URL
   ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/documents/zlib/zdoc-index.html.
--

The gcrypt license header says:
  The copyright on RFCs, and consequently the function below, are
  supposedly also retroactively claimed by the Internet Society
  (according to rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org), with the following
  copyright notice: [...]

I assume this refers to the mail quoted in
https://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments regarding RFC 1510. -
However the situation with 1510 differs signigicantly from RFC 1952.
The former is distributet without copyrighth statement and
license-headers, while the other one has both.

cu Andreas
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Bug#745453: [libgcrypt20] Non free RFC

2014-04-22 Thread Simon Josefsson
Two comments:

1) Looking at crc.c, I don't think the code in question is big enough to
   be copyrightable.  The FSF usually uses a 10-line limit, and my
   impression is that they are intentionally conservative here.  The
   code is a couple of lines only.

2) Code from some RFCs is available under the BSD license or for
   smaller snippets, under fair use, via the IETF Trust.  See
   http://trustee.ietf.org/faq.html

/Simon


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Bug#745453: [libgcrypt20] Non free RFC

2014-04-22 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org wrote:
 Two comments:

 1) Looking at crc.c, I don't think the code in question is big enough to
be copyrightable.  The FSF usually uses a 10-line limit, and my
impression is that they are intentionally conservative here.  The
code is a couple of lines only.

 2) Code from some RFCs is available under the BSD license or for
smaller snippets, under fair use, via the IETF Trust.  See
http://trustee.ietf.org/faq.html

Ok this could be thus documented under your COPYING File and reflected
back in debian/copyright.

Bastien

 /Simon


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Bug#745453: [libgcrypt20] Non free RFC

2014-04-22 Thread Simon Josefsson
You wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Simon Josefsson
 si...@josefsson.org wrote:
  Two comments:
 
  1) Looking at crc.c, I don't think the code in question is big
  enough to be copyrightable.  The FSF usually uses a 10-line limit,
  and my impression is that they are intentionally conservative
  here.  The code is a couple of lines only.
 
  2) Code from some RFCs is available under the BSD license or for
 smaller snippets, under fair use, via the IETF Trust.  See
 http://trustee.ietf.org/faq.html
 
 Ok this could be thus documented under your COPYING File and reflected
 back in debian/copyright.

Feel free to forward it upstream to Werner.  I think COPYING reflect
the correct licensing status of the package though, so I'm not sure
what should be added there?

/Simon


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Bug#745453: [libgcrypt20] Non free RFC

2014-04-21 Thread bastien ROUCARIES
Package: libgcrypt20
Version: 1.6.1-2
Severity: serious
User: debian-rele...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: nonfree-doc rfc
control: block 745409 by -1
control: clone -1 -2
control: reassign -2 libgcrypt11
control: found -2 1.5.3-4 

Hi!

This source package contains the following files from the
IETF under non-free license terms:

cipher/crc.c

The license on RFC/I-Ds is not DFSG-free, see:

 * http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments
 * http://bugs.debian.org/199810

According to the squeeze/wheezy release policy, source packages must be
DFSG-free, see:

 * http://release.debian.org/squeeze/rc_policy.txt
 * http://release.debian.org/wheezy/rc_policy.txt

The severity is serious, because this violates the Debian policy:

 * http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-dfsg

There are (at least) three ways to fix this problem.  In order of
preference:

1. Ask the author of the RFC to re-license the RFC under a free
   license.  A template for this e-mail request can be found at
   http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments

2. Remove the non-free material from the source, e.g., by re-packaging
   the upstream archive and adding 'dfsg' to the Debian package
   version name.

3. Move the package to non-free.

General discussions are kindly requested to take place on debian-legal
or debian-devel in the thread with Subject: Non-free IETF RFC/I-Ds in
source packages.

Thanks,


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