Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Martin Steigerwald]

martin f krafft - 03.06.17, 08:12:
> also sprach Norbert Preining  [2017-06-03 00:12 
+0200]:
> > Then how are you planning to deal with this serious bug after
> > years of inactivity?
> 
> Sounds like it might need ctte attention.

I agree to that, since a discussion between the people advocating the removal 
of google DNS servers as a default for resolved and current systemd debian 
package maintainers Michael and Marco is going in circles and does not seem to 
lead to any outcome that would resolve the conflict.

Thanks,
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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Marco d'Itri]

On Jun 03, Norbert Preining  wrote:

> >As one of the systemd maintainers I am explicitly and publicly 
> >requesting that you do not introduce this unwanted change.
> Then how are you planning to deal with this serious bug after years of 
> inactivity?
I think that I have already expressed clearly my position.

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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Norbert Preining  [2017-06-03 00:12 +0200]:
> Then how are you planning to deal with this serious bug after
> years of inactivity?

Sounds like it might need ctte attention.

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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Norbert Preining]

Good morning,

>As one of the systemd maintainers I am explicitly and publicly 
>requesting that you do not introduce this unwanted change.

Then how are you planning to deal with this serious bug after years of 
inactivity?

Norbert


On June 3, 2017 5:49:39 AM GMT+09:00, m...@linux.it wrote:
>On Jun 02, Norbert Preining  wrote:
>
>> I am planning to upload an NMU fixing this issue to DELAY3 and hope
>that
>> release managers allow this fix into stretch.
>You cannot do a NMU just because the maintainers of a package disagree 
>with you.
>


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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Marco d'Itri]

On Jun 02, Norbert Preining  wrote:

> I am planning to upload an NMU fixing this issue to DELAY3 and hope that
> release managers allow this fix into stretch.
You cannot do a NMU just because the maintainers of a package disagree 
with you.

As one of the systemd maintainers I am explicitly and publicly 
requesting that you do not introduce this unwanted change.

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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Michael Biebl]

Am 02.06.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Norbert Preining:
>> Your reasoning is flawed. The Google DNS servers are not set as default.
> 
> AC_ARG_WITH(dns-servers,
> AS_HELP_STRING([--with-dns-servers=DNSSERVERS],
> [Space-separated list of default DNS servers]),
> [DNS_SERVERS="$withval"],
> [DNS_SERVERS="8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 2001:4860:4860:: 
> 2001:4860:4860::8844"])
> 
> and I don't see any usage of --with-dns-servers ?
> 
> Please explain?

You're the one who needs to explain a hostile NMU.
Do you actually know what this is about?


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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Norbert Preining]

> Your reasoning is flawed. The Google DNS servers are not set as default.

AC_ARG_WITH(dns-servers,
AS_HELP_STRING([--with-dns-servers=DNSSERVERS],
[Space-separated list of default DNS servers]),
[DNS_SERVERS="$withval"],
[DNS_SERVERS="8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 2001:4860:4860:: 
2001:4860:4860::8844"])

and I don't see any usage of --with-dns-servers ?

Please explain?

Norbert

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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Michael Biebl]

Am 02.06.2017 um 16:32 schrieb Norbert Preining:
> Dear maintainers,
> 
> leaking information, whatsoever, is not acceptable in Debian, and against
> policy, at least lintian errors out on many occasions with
>   privacy-foobar*
> errors.
> 
> Setting the default servers to Google is not acceptable. 
> 
> Ignoring this fact with the explanation that one can *disable* it is
> not sufficient. Reason: *Every* leak can be disabled by unplugging the
> network cable. 
> 
> This is not a solution.
> 
> I am planning to upload an NMU fixing this issue to DELAY3 and hope that
> release managers allow this fix into stretch.

Your reasoning is flawed. The Google DNS servers are not set as default.
Neither is resolved enabled by default.

So I object to your hostile NMU.



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Bug#761658: urgency of a fix before stretch

[Norbert Preining]

Dear maintainers,

leaking information, whatsoever, is not acceptable in Debian, and against
policy, at least lintian errors out on many occasions with
privacy-foobar*
errors.

Setting the default servers to Google is not acceptable. 

Ignoring this fact with the explanation that one can *disable* it is
not sufficient. Reason: *Every* leak can be disabled by unplugging the
network cable. 

This is not a solution.

I am planning to upload an NMU fixing this issue to DELAY3 and hope that
release managers allow this fix into stretch.

All the best

Norbert

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