Bug#832062: SuperTuxKart must be uploaded soon for not missing stretch

[Vincent Cheng]

Hi Joerg,

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, henrichsjo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am one of the STK admins. Can you tell us exactly what you need? The song
> was released under CC-BY-SA by the author (as indicated by the author's
> email we received, which we published in the mentioned forum thread:
> http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=17=6562#p70981).
>
> Afaik under CC-BY-SA no 'source code' is necessary, but even so the .mod
> file is available in our media repo
> (https://svn.code.sf.net/p/supertuxkart/code/media/trunk/music/mods/).
>
> I am not really sure what else you need - any advise appreciated!

I don't think there's anything else we expect from upstream to resolve
this bug. I was hoping for the author (vimster) to release some sort
of public, verifiable statement that they would like to license their
works under CC-BY-SA, in order to refute their earlier statement in
that same forum thread that they want their work to be licensed with a
not-for-profit clause (I'm assuming that would be something akin to
CC-BY-SA-NC, which would not be considered DFSG-free by Debian). But
I'm fine with taking deve's word that the author accepted CC-BY-SA
licensing in a private email. Thanks for getting in touch with the
author and clarifying the license!

My hesitation with this bug was mostly due to uncertainty whether
Debian's ftpmasters and/or other maintainers within the Debian Games
team would require more proof regarding the author's intentions, but
that does not seem to be the case. Assuming no objections from the
team, I'll prepare a STK upload over the weekend.

> PS: Is there a way of avoiding publishing email addresses here on the web
> site? It's too late now for me, but maybe for next time ;)

Unfortunately not, but if you contact me directly off-list, I'll still
do my best to reply ASAP. :)

Regards,
Vincent

Bug#832062: SuperTuxKart must be uploaded soon for not missing stretch

[Vincent Cheng]

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Adrian Bunk  wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:57:00PM -0800, Vincent Cheng wrote:
>> Hi Adrian,
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Adrian Bunk  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > if I undererstand it correctly, all 3 RC bugs in SuperTuxKart have been
>> > resolved upstream.
>>
>> The status of #832062 is not so clear-cut. I think it's open to
>> interpretation whether the file in question in that bug report is
>> actually available for use under a DFSG-compatible license, which is
>> why I looped in ftpmasters in the bug report (see my reply at [1] for
>> my understanding of the current situation), but have not received any
>> sort of response. I'm willing to take upstream's word about the sound
>> file's DFSG compatibility, but would like to get a ACK/NACK from
>> someone authoritative (i.e. ftpmasters).
>>...
>
> Scott Kitterman from the ftpmaster team commented when I asked on IRC:
>
> 10:44 < ScottK> bunk: I think the maintainer has it handled.  He ought to use
> his best judgment instead of hesitating.  I don't see anyone
> objecting.  i don't think the FTP team needs to get involved.
>

Fair enough. I'll go ahead and prepare a STK upload over the weekend,
unless anyone on the team has any last minute objections.

Regards,
Vincent

Bug#832062: SuperTuxKart must be uploaded soon for not missing stretch

[henrichsjo...@gmail.com]

Hi all,

I am one of the STK admins. Can you tell us exactly what you need? The 
song was released under CC-BY-SA by the author (as indicated by the 
author's email we received, which we published in the mentioned forum 
thread: http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=17=6562#p70981).


Afaik under CC-BY-SA no 'source code' is necessary, but even so the .mod 
file is available in our media repo 
(https://svn.code.sf.net/p/supertuxkart/code/media/trunk/music/mods/).


I am not really sure what else you need - any advise appreciated!

Cheers,
   Joerg (aka hiker)

PS: Is there a way of avoiding publishing email addresses here on the 
web site? It's too late now for me, but maybe for next time ;)

Bug#832062: SuperTuxKart must be uploaded soon for not missing stretch

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:57:00PM -0800, Vincent Cheng wrote:
> Hi Adrian,

Hi Vincent,

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Adrian Bunk  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > if I undererstand it correctly, all 3 RC bugs in SuperTuxKart have been
> > resolved upstream.
> 
> The status of #832062 is not so clear-cut. I think it's open to
> interpretation whether the file in question in that bug report is
> actually available for use under a DFSG-compatible license, which is
> why I looped in ftpmasters in the bug report (see my reply at [1] for
> my understanding of the current situation), but have not received any
> sort of response. I'm willing to take upstream's word about the sound
> file's DFSG compatibility, but would like to get a ACK/NACK from
> someone authoritative (i.e. ftpmasters).
>...

Scott Kitterman from the ftpmaster team commented when I asked on IRC:

10:44 < ScottK> bunk: I think the maintainer has it handled.  He ought to use 
his best judgment instead of hesitating.  I don't see anyone 
objecting.  i don't think the FTP team needs to get involved.


> Regards,
> Vincent
>...

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Bug#832062: SuperTuxKart must be uploaded soon for not missing stretch

[Vincent Cheng]

Hi Adrian,

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Adrian Bunk  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if I undererstand it correctly, all 3 RC bugs in SuperTuxKart have been
> resolved upstream.

The status of #832062 is not so clear-cut. I think it's open to
interpretation whether the file in question in that bug report is
actually available for use under a DFSG-compatible license, which is
why I looped in ftpmasters in the bug report (see my reply at [1] for
my understanding of the current situation), but have not received any
sort of response. I'm willing to take upstream's word about the sound
file's DFSG compatibility, but would like to get a ACK/NACK from
someone authoritative (i.e. ftpmasters).

> SuperTuxKart is currently not in testing, and if a fixed version does
> not get uploaded soon it will miss the stretch release.

STK cannot migrate to testing until #832062 is resolved.

Regards,
Vincent

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=832062#37