Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:54:34 +0100 Dominik George wrote: > > In fact, the package was installed since I have turned on install > > suggests. If this was done on purpose or accident is not open for debate. > > It is. I'm sorry, but in fact, your concern should be that you are obviously > unable to control what you install on your system. You can read a handbook on > this topic - but please leave unrelated maintainers alone - they are not the > support crew for your personal system's administration. So what about mirrors in countries, where this is illegal (like germany), that get all packages automatically? Is there a way to exclude this illegal package? Wouldn’t it be easier to just remove that file and be done with it? > The fix is to purge the package and look and think next time you install > packages. Will you inform the mirrors in countries that this is illegal? > > -nik
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
> Debian Mirror Operator here. This could bring some legal problems for > some of us, since we do not only possess it, but also distribute the > package.. I know this is highly theoretical, but only because law > enforcement in most countries probably don't know about Debian (<-- as a > figure of speech of course). I agree. Whilst the content of the file in question is debatable, the file name itself is not. In fact, "sodomized-sheep.cow" leaves no bug room for interpretation of the ASCII representation itself. A note to all those who try to troll me or the bug report because they read about it on fefe: It was created to protect unknowingly of legal actions, especially mirror operators or those who have install suggests and recommends on. If you find that "You're wasting the time of the maintainers", please refer to the Debian Code of Conduct [1], which includes, but is not limited to, those sections: - Be respectful - Assume good faith - Be open All the best Felicia [1] https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
> Look and think next time you install packages A name like "cowsay-off" doesn't imply it contains obscene content. Executing apt-cache show on all packages you install is impractical. I suggest * Changing the name of the package to "cowsay-obscene" * Removing it from suggested packages for cowsay ~Richard
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
Morning! > There are countries in which the possession of certain content is > enough to be sentenced, in particular for example child pornography but > also zoophilia. No distribution or "usage" is required. Debian Mirror Operator here. This could bring some legal problems for some of us, since we do not only possess it, but also distribute the package.. I know this is highly theoretical, but only because law enforcement in most countries probably don't know about Debian (<-- as a figure of speech of course). All the best Sebastian -- Sebastian Elisa Pfeifer Cyber Perikarp - Verein z. Förderung d. Netzkultur Wassertalweg 56 | 8670 Krieglach | AUSTRIA Vereinsregisternummer: 712531114 Datenverarbeitungsregister:4016968 PGP Key ID: 0x923719A753677B95 EU-Transparenz-Registernummer: 334990728439-25 D-U-N-S® Nummer: 300530810 Phone: +43 3855 289 10 Fax: +43 3855 289 10 - 10 Mobile: +43 677 623 144 11 Jabber: deadd...@fsfe.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
> Make cowsay-off only suggested and ask for confirmation on install. I believe this is a reasonable course of action. I also have to apologize: I was under the impression that the Zoophilia representation was in cowsay, when in reality it was in cowsay-off. All the best Felicia
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
> In fact, the package was installed since I have turned on install > suggests. If this was done on purpose or accident is not open for debate. It is. I'm sorry, but in fact, your concern should be that you are obviously unable to control what you install on your system. You can read a handbook on this topic - but please leave unrelated maintainers alone - they are not the support crew for your personal system's administration. The fix is to purge the package and look and think next time you install packages. -nik
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
Hi, here are my 2¢: > Hi, > you tested it? And you read and understand the description of cowsay- off > carefully? > > Explicit: the sheep is not part of the cowsay package - it is part of > cowsay-off which is described as: > Ok, it is a little bit tasteless - but no one is forced to install this > package. Unfortunatly cowsay-off is a recommended package of cowsay, this is definitely questionable (i would consider it to be a bug)! About the legal issues: There are countries in which the possession of certain content is enough to be sentenced, in particular for example child pornography but also zoophilia. No distribution or "usage" is required. My suggestion: Make cowsay-off only suggested and ask for confirmation on install.
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
> Explicit: the sheep is not part of the cowsay package - it is part of > cowsay-off which is described as: > > This package contains cows which some may consider to be offensive. > > Please do not install this package if you or your users are easily > > offended. > Ok, it is a little bit tasteless - but no one is forced to install this > package. It's not about whether I find this package tasteless or offensive. It's about a legal issue outlined in my initial bug report. In fact, the package was installed since I have turned on install suggests. If this was done on purpose or accident is not open for debate. All the best Felicia
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
Hi, you tested it? And you read and understand the description of cowsay-off carefully? Explicit: the sheep is not part of the cowsay package - it is part of cowsay-off which is described as: > This package contains cows which some may consider to be offensive. > Please do not install this package if you or your users are easily > offended. Ok, it is a little bit tasteless - but no one is forced to install this package. My 2¢ Alf
Bug#882085: [cowsay] Package includes ASCII representation of Zoophilia
Package: cowsay Version: 3.03+dfsg2-3 Severity: critical --- Please enter the report below this line. --- The package cowsay includes an ASCII representation of Zoophilia. The file in question is /usr/share/cowsay/cows/sodomized-sheep.cow This is a legal issue in many countries. Even if it's not well-defined by law if ASCII representations of Zoophilia are legal or not, I'd rather prefer not to take a chance being involved in a lawsuit when such a file could be found on my computer. Please remove the file from the packages as soon as possible. Thank you. All the best Felicia --- System information. --- Architecture: Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-3-amd64 Debian Release: buster/sid 500 testing www.deb-multimedia.org 500 testing ftp2.de.debian.org 500 testing devel.alephobjects.com 500 stable repository.spotify.com 500 stable repos.fds-team.de 500 stable repo.skype.com 500 stable repo.adminlounge.org 500 stable dl.google.com 500 stable deb.dovetail-automata.com 500 oldstable ftp2.de.debian.org 100 jessie-backports ftp.de.debian.org --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed =-+-=== libtext-charwidth-perl| 0.04-7.1 perl:any | Recommends (Version) | Installed =-+-=== cowsay-off| 3.03+dfsg2-3 Suggests (Version) | Installed ===-+-=== filters |
