Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2022-01-19 05:43:15 +0100, Sebastian Rasmussen wrote:
> Sadly it appears no one has stepped up to do the porting in the four years
> since 2017. As a user of wicd-curses, can I humbly suggest that Debian
> disables wicd-gtk for the time being so that Debian/testing mapped to
> bookworm can continue using wicd?
> 
> I'm slightly worried by this comment though:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885140#77

There are also other issues.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=916348

is rather annoying for networks with several access points.

> If wicd-curses is kicked out of Debian entirely, what is the suggested
> alternative for scanning, connecting to and disconnecting from Wi-Fi
> in a terminal?

Due to the various wicd issues, I've switched to nmcli, e.g.

  nmcli device wifi rescan
  nmcli device wifi list
  nmcli device wifi connect ...
  nmcli device disconnect ...

There are completions for bash and zsh.

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Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Sebastian Rasmussen]

> I'm slightly worried by this comment though:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885140#77

I have now tried to temporarily upgrade to the wicd-curses,
wicd-cli, wicd-daemon and python3-wicd versions present in
Debian/experimental. Unfortunately I can only see a fraction
of the Wi-Fi SSIDs compared to the version that used to be
in Debian/testing. I'm happy to do more testing for that issue
(help me find the bug, I can't find it), since that appears to
block the resolution of this bug #885140.

 / Sebastian

Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Sebastian Rasmussen]

> If nobody steps up to finish the porting, there is (not so nice) plan B: 
> disable
> wicd-gtk and leave wicd-curses (more buggy than it should be, but
> usable) and wicd-cli.

Sadly it appears no one has stepped up to do the porting in the four years
since 2017. As a user of wicd-curses, can I humbly suggest that Debian
disables wicd-gtk for the time being so that Debian/testing mapped to
bookworm can continue using wicd?

I'm slightly worried by this comment though:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885140#77

If wicd-curses is kicked out of Debian entirely, what is the suggested
alternative for scanning, connecting to and disconnecting from Wi-Fi
in a terminal?

 / Sebastian

Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Joerg Dorchain]

Hello all,


On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:43:05 + Simon McVittie  wrote:

> The python-gtk dependency went away, so it's certainly true to say that
> the version in experimental no longer depends on the unmaintained package,
> which is what the submitter of #885140 wanted :-)
> 

just wondering, the version in experimental is more than a year old. Is
there a change to upload a more recent version of wicd?

Bye,

Joerg

Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Guido Maria Serra]

Il giorno sab, 28/12/2019 alle 15.49 +0100, Axel Beckert ha scritto:
> look at that issue, i.e. Debian bug report #946380?)

sure, sorry... was having some time off keyboard as well :)
...I'll spend some time on it in the upcoming week

best,
GMS

Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Simon McVittie]

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 15:49:45 +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
> Simon McVittie wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 at 09:31:29 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > > The way forward is to port your app to use GObject Introspection
> > > bindings.
> > 
> > This appears to be fixed in experimental along with #938823.
> 
> Why do you think so?

The python-gtk dependency went away, so it's certainly true to say that
the version in experimental no longer depends on the unmaintained package,
which is what the submitter of #885140 wanted :-)

(As a result the GUI doesn't work any more (#946380), which I agree is a
blocker for upload to unstable - but it's a step in the right direction.)

smcv

Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Axel Beckert]

Control: notfixed -1 1.7.4+tb2+2019.09.18git2e0ba579-1

Hi Simon,

Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 at 09:31:29 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > The way forward is to port your app to use GObject Introspection
> > bindings.
> 
> This appears to be fixed in experimental along with #938823.

Why do you think so? AFAIK upstream (Cc'ed) hasn't fixed that part
yet, see also https://bugs.debian.org/946380 (Guido: can you have a
look at that issue, i.e. Debian bug report #946380?)

> [...] it's the status of unstable that matters for the ability to
> remove pygtk; please close this bug in the first Python 3 upload of
> wicd to unstable.

Likely won't upload this to unstable until this is fixed.

Regards, Axel
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Bug#885140: [pkg-wicd-maint] Bug#885140: wicd: Depends on unmaintained pygtk

[Axel Beckert]

Hi,

Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> The way forward is to port your app to use GObject Introspection
> bindings.

There is an upstream wishlist bug respective blueprint to do this:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/wicd/+bug/878417

But it's from 2011 from the previous upstream maintainer. It's a start
though for anyone who'll try to do that, as there's an incomplete
patch already included.

If nobody steps up to finish the porting, there is (not so nice) plan B: disable
wicd-gtk and leave wicd-curses (more buggy than it should be, but
usable) and wicd-cli.

Regards, Axel
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