Bug#886063: libgnomecanvas: Don't release with Buster
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:24:21 +0100 Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 02:50:40 -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > > "libgnomecanvas is not related to libgnome in any way despite the > > name. It provides a high-performance canvas widget for GTK2, it is the > > standard canvas widget for GTK2. There is no good replacement for > > GTK3. I am not aware of any serious issues with it apart from it being > > old." > > The major issue with libgnomecanvas is that it has no upstream maintainer > (#895350). Its upstream git repository is marked as archived: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/libgnomecanvas/ > > and it has had no non-translation commits since January 2011. > > The Debian GNOME maintainers do not have the bandwidth to maintain many > packages in Debian 10 'buster' that are dead upstream. Adrian Bunk and > Gert Wollny have expressed interest in taking over maintenance (see > #895247), but have not yet uploaded a version setting either of them > as maintainers. > > My main concern about this package being adopted is that its name and > current package description do not indicate that it is no longer > maintained or recommended by the GNOME project. Any new maintainer > should fix this. > > smcv > > Hi, If it is still a goal to get libgnomecanvas removed from buster, then the remaining reverse dependencies should be migrated away from libgnomecanvas to something else. At the moment, I see the following 4 reverse dependencies that could prevent the removal of libgnomecanvas *without* any RC bugs against them: """ amide: amide frama-c: frama-c lablgtk2: liblablgtk2-gnome-ocaml liblablgtk2-gnome-ocaml-dev ocamlgraph: ocamlgraph-editor [amd64 arm64 armhf i386 ppc64el s390x] """ (NB: lablgtk2 has #885677 which may count as such; not entirely sure) If you would like libgnomecanvas removed, then please ensure that all reverse dependencies have RC bugs requesting them to move away from this package. Thanks, ~Niels
Bug#886063: libgnomecanvas: Don't release with Buster
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 02:50:40 -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > "libgnomecanvas is not related to libgnome in any way despite the > name. It provides a high-performance canvas widget for GTK2, it is the > standard canvas widget for GTK2. There is no good replacement for > GTK3. I am not aware of any serious issues with it apart from it being > old." The major issue with libgnomecanvas is that it has no upstream maintainer (#895350). Its upstream git repository is marked as archived: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/libgnomecanvas/ and it has had no non-translation commits since January 2011. The Debian GNOME maintainers do not have the bandwidth to maintain many packages in Debian 10 'buster' that are dead upstream. Adrian Bunk and Gert Wollny have expressed interest in taking over maintenance (see #895247), but have not yet uploaded a version setting either of them as maintainers. My main concern about this package being adopted is that its name and current package description do not indicate that it is no longer maintained or recommended by the GNOME project. Any new maintainer should fix this. smcv
Bug#886063: libgnomecanvas: Don't release with Buster
I apologise. The relevant post is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885777#22: "Uh, wait... the mailing list post from October 2017 announcing the deprecation and removal of libgnome and libgnomeui and other related libraries didn't even list libgnomecanvas among the libraries to be removed, or xournal among the affected packages -- perhaps showing awareness that libgnomecanvas is in fact not related to libgnome in any way. Could it be that someone got overzealous and decided to remove libgnomecanvas for no good reason? Perhaps that can still be undone?"
Bug#886063: libgnomecanvas: Don't release with Buster
The Xournal package requires this package. If you refer to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885777#17, it appears that this package has been flagged for removal somewhat over-zealously: "libgnomecanvas is not related to libgnome in any way despite the name. It provides a high-performance canvas widget for GTK2, it is the standard canvas widget for GTK2. There is no good replacement for GTK3. I am not aware of any serious issues with it apart from it being old." I depend on Xournal, and as there is no suitable GTK3 replacement, I'm curious whether it is possible to appeal the decision to remove libgnomecanvas on the grounds that it apperntly is not part of the libgnome code base.
Bug#886063: libgnomecanvas: Don't release with Buster
Source: libgnomecanvas Version: 2.30.3-3 Severity: serious User: pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Usertags: oldlibs libgnomecanvas Tags: sid buster As announced [1], we do not intend to release Debian 10 "Buster" with the old libgnome (and related) libraries. libgnomecanvas is one of these unmaintained libraries. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/10/msg00299.html On behalf of the Debian GNOME team, Jeremy Bicha
