Why is the new jigdo test template soo large?

2004-06-07 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
Any clue?
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/jigdotemplates/

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jigdo CD directory contains DVD images

2004-06-07 Thread Richard Atterer
Hello there,

it seems a mistake was made on the primary mirror for CD jigdo files - the 
files at http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/ 
are for DVD images. Until this is fixed, you can get the files from our 
master location at 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/

Cheers,

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cd -- dvd

2004-06-07 Thread mpullmann
Hello,

I think that in http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/ isnt 
CD but DVD version.

HAND
Mike





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SUGGESTION: add timestamp directories

2004-06-07 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
Hello:

Is it possible to ATLEAST add timestamp directories for cdimage-testing?

Eg:http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/040607/cd/jigdo-area/i386/
  ^^

or wherever it is more appropriate.

It would be even better, if you create testing images with 
time stamp names

Eg: sarge-040607-i386-1.iso

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JTE (Jigdo Template Export) v1.0

2004-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
Guys (especially Richard),

I've been looking for a while at ways to make jigdo run faster when
generating template files from iso images. (See
http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2003/12/msg00041.html for my
original mail). The core problem is that once we have an ISO image,
jigdo essentially has to brute-force that image back into a binary
blob (template file) and a list of files needed to rebuild the image
(jigdo file). On my home system with a very good disks and a
reasonable processor, creating jigdo files for a DVD iso image can
take several hours. Multiply that up by 11 architectures...

There are a few ways to improve this that I can see:

1. Modify jigdo so it knows about the internals of ISO images and can
   efficiently scan them (bad, not very generic for jigdo)

2. Write a helper tool to dump extra information for jigdo to use
   alongside the ISO image (helper tool written, but modifying jigdo
   to use this looks HARD)

3. Patch mkisofs to write .jigdo and .template files alongside the
   ISO image

I've now done #3, and the patch for mkisofs is at

  http://www.einval.com/~steve/software/CD/mkisofs-JTE.patch.gz

In the same directory I have a tool to dump the contents of (and
rebuild images from) .jte files and another one to dump the contents
of .template files.

How to use it:
==

To use this code, specify the location of the output .jigdo, .template
and .jte files alongside the ISO image. The .jte file is an
intermediate helper file that I'll probably lose for the next
release. You can also specify the minimum size beneath which files
will just be dropped into the binary template file data rather than
listed as separate files to be found on the mirror. For example:

mkisofs -J -r -o /home/steve/test1.iso \
-jigdo-helper /home/steve/test1.jte \
-jigdo-jigdo /home/steve/test1.jigdo \
-jigdo-template /home/steve/test1.template \
-jigdo-min-file-size 16384 \
/mirror/jigdo-test

If the -jigdo-* options are not used, the normal mkisofs execution
path is not affected. The above invocation will create 4 output
files. I've tested extensively with various input data and I can
recreate ISO images using jigdo-file and the wrapper jigdo-mirror.

How it works:
=

I've hooked all the places in mkisofs where it will normally write
image data. All the normal data write calls (dir entries etc.) I
simply pass through and build into the template file. Any *file* data
entries are passed through with information about the original
file. If that file is large enough, I grab the filename and the MD5 of
the file's data so I can just write a file match record into the
template file (and then the jigdo file).

How fast is it?
===

On my *laptop* (600MHz P3, slow laptop disk) I can make a template
file in parallel with the ISO image from a typical 500MB data set in
about 2 minutes. By simply not creating the ISO (-o /dev/null), this
time halves again. The data set I'm using here is a copy of the woody
i386 r2 update CD, as it's a handy image I had lying around.

What's left to do?
==

1. Testing! :-) This is where you lot come in! Please play with this
   some more and let me know if you have any problems, especially with
   data corruption.

More features:

2. Add support for -jigdo-exclude option(s), so that we can exclude
   (from the jigdo) README.* etc and other files that go on Debian CDs
   but often change on the mirrors. Reasonably easy to do, and I'm
   playing with this now.

3. Add pattern-matching in the .jigdo file (e.g. /mirror/debian -
   Debian:). Again, should be easy.

4. Cosmetic cleanup of the .jigdo output. Easy

5. MUCH harder: re-reading and re-encoding .iso images that have been
   modified since they were first written. This is necessary for
   the boot code used on several architectures in debian-cd. I see how
   to do it - basically diff the image on disk to the one we would
   recreate from the .template file and write a new template file to
   match that. It's going to take some work...

I hope people find this useful - at the moment I shudder at the
thought of releasing sarge (10+ CDs, netinst, business card, 2 DVDs
per arch) without making this kind of change. It'll take a week to
generate the release images otherwise...

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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Joey Hess
Peter Yellman wrote:
 http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/sarge-i386-1.jigdo 
 
 Multiple attempts -- at least 5.  Tried linux, expert, linux26, 
 expert26. Never offered the opportunity to configure network.  Tried 
 with 2 different NICs - a common Macronix, and an Intel e100.  Installer 
 seemed to see NIC -- module was loaded in alt console, but never started 
 network configuration.

This is a known problem with the full CDs, depsite numerous requests to
the debian-cd guys to fix this, they do not include the netcfg udeb
necessary to get the network configured. They also don't include a
usable set of packages to get X working, or some hardware working
post-install, so I cannot recommend you use them if you want a working
system -- use the netinst CDs.

 Selecting network module in expert mode resulted 
 in message to the effect requested module not available.

Please don't paraphrase error messages. What exactly did you select from
the menu, and what was the exact error message you received?

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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:15:20AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Peter Yellman wrote:
 http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/sarge-i386-1.jigdo 
 
 Multiple attempts -- at least 5.  Tried linux, expert, linux26, 
 expert26. Never offered the opportunity to configure network.  Tried 
 with 2 different NICs - a common Macronix, and an Intel e100.  Installer 
 seemed to see NIC -- module was loaded in alt console, but never started 
 network configuration.

This is a known problem with the full CDs, depsite numerous requests to
the debian-cd guys to fix this, they do not include the netcfg udeb
necessary to get the network configured. They also don't include a
usable set of packages to get X working, or some hardware working
post-install, so I cannot recommend you use them if you want a working
system -- use the netinst CDs.

I must have blinked and missed these. If you can give me a list of
which files are needed, or a pointer as to how to work it out I'll get
onto this later today for you.

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Excluding udebs from powerpc businesscard/netinst

2004-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
We could do with cutting down the size of the powerpc CDs a bit. Here's
a first stab at an exclude-udebs-powerpc, which may help. Please apply
it only for sid; it can be ported back to sarge after rc1 is out and
we've verified that everything still works.

It sucks that (a) we have to duplicate this information and (b) there's
no easy way to find out what packages went into a d-i CD image short of
messing around in build logs. Perhaps we could ship some kind of an
initrd manifest with each initrd, which would be useful to end users
(think trying to work out if a new enough version of some package is
included in your image), d-i developers, and debian-cd?


# These udebs build the d-i cdrom initrd. As such, there is no reason
# to keep another copy of them on the CD in udeb form.
#
# This duplicates data found in the file build/pkg-lists/cdrom/powerpc,
# in d-i Subversion.

cdrom-core-modules-*
console-keymaps-at
console-keymaps-usb
discover-data-udeb
discover-udeb
discover1-data-udeb
discover1-udeb
eject-udeb
firewire-core-modules-*
fs-common-modules-*
ide-modules-*
input-modules-*
kbd-chooser
pcmcia-cs-udeb
pcmcia-modules-*
pcmcia-storage-modules-*
scsi-common-modules-*
scsi-core-modules-*
scsi-modules-*
socket-modules-*
usb-modules-*
usb-storage-modules-*
# Not needed with the 2.4 kernel on powerpc.
userdevfs


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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Joey Hess
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 I must have blinked and missed these. If you can give me a list of
 which files are needed, or a pointer as to how to work it out I'll get
 onto this later today for you.

See http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2004/05/msg00036.html

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Re: Excluding udebs from powerpc businesscard/netinst

2004-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:26:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 We could do with cutting down the size of the powerpc CDs a bit. Here's
 a first stab at an exclude-udebs-powerpc, which may help.

For what it's worth, some quick calculations suggest that this will save
about 11MB from powerpc businesscard and netinst images, which is a not
inconsiderable win.

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Re: JTE (Jigdo Template Export) v1.0

2004-06-07 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:02:24PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 1. Modify jigdo so it knows about the internals of ISO images and can
efficiently scan them (bad, not very generic for jigdo)
 
 2. Write a helper tool to dump extra information for jigdo to use
alongside the ISO image (helper tool written, but modifying jigdo
to use this looks HARD)
 
 3. Patch mkisofs to write .jigdo and .template files alongside the
ISO image
 
 I've now done #3, and the patch for mkisofs is at

That's really cool!!! Many thanks for doing this!

Something like #2 was my favourite: Write a special .iso image, but omit
the file data from it, just embed information about the names of files 
which were omitted. Later, tell jigdo-file to process the results and write 
out proper .jigdo/.template files.

I guess it's my fault for not offering to add support to jigdo-file for
this, sorry Steve. IMHO, it would have prevented some code from being
duplicated in jte and jigdo-file, permitted the use of jigdo-file's cache
for checksums (= even faster!), and resulted in a smaller patch to mkisofs
which has better chances of being accepted by mkisofs upstream. And 
(unsurprisingly) it doesn't look /that/ hard to me. ;)

 To use this code, specify the location of the output .jigdo, .template
 and .jte files alongside the ISO image. The .jte file is an
 intermediate helper file that I'll probably lose for the next
 release.

What does the .jte file contain now, and why is it needed?

 How fast is it?
 ===
 
 On my *laptop* (600MHz P3, slow laptop disk) I can make a template file
 in parallel with the ISO image from a typical 500MB data set in about 2
 minutes. By simply not creating the ISO (-o /dev/null), this time halves
 again. The data set I'm using here is a copy of the woody i386 r2 update
 CD, as it's a handy image I had lying around.

Yum. :)

 More features:
 
 2. Add support for -jigdo-exclude option(s), so that we can exclude
(from the jigdo) README.* etc and other files that go on Debian CDs
but often change on the mirrors. Reasonably easy to do, and I'm
playing with this now.
 
 3. Add pattern-matching in the .jigdo file (e.g. /mirror/debian -
Debian:). Again, should be easy.

We'd get both 2. and 3. for free with the post-processing by jigdo-file 
approach, hmm...

 5. MUCH harder: re-reading and re-encoding .iso images that have been
modified since they were first written. This is necessary for
the boot code used on several architectures in debian-cd. I see how
to do it - basically diff the image on disk to the one we would
recreate from the .template file and write a new template file to
match that. It's going to take some work...

But scanning the changed image would also need a lot of time... I think a
different approach looks more promising: Write a special dd-jigdo program
which behaves and works like the original dd in every respect, except
that it works directly on the .template. A simple version of such a program 
could get away without modifying the .jigdo file, and the .template format 
does not make it necessary to recompress all the data in the template - 
just a part of it needs to be recompressed.

Alternatively: While you're busy hacking on mkisofs, why not add the
functionality there? The use of dd by debian-cd only illustrates that
mkisofs lacks a feature here!

I think dd is the only tool used by debian-cd, to write a boot sector for
some arches - or is there something else?

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: JTE (Jigdo Template Export) v1.0

2004-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:00:04PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:02:24PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 1. Modify jigdo so it knows about the internals of ISO images and can
efficiently scan them (bad, not very generic for jigdo)
 
 2. Write a helper tool to dump extra information for jigdo to use
alongside the ISO image (helper tool written, but modifying jigdo
to use this looks HARD)
 
 3. Patch mkisofs to write .jigdo and .template files alongside the
ISO image
 
 I've now done #3, and the patch for mkisofs is at

That's really cool!!! Many thanks for doing this!

Something like #2 was my favourite: Write a special .iso image, but omit
the file data from it, just embed information about the names of files 
which were omitted. Later, tell jigdo-file to process the results and write 
out proper .jigdo/.template files.

Yup, that's what I was planning to do. But (as I said a while ago) I
don't grok C++ at all and mktemplate.cc is _scary_, especially the
hand-unrolled loop in the middle of scanImage().

I guess it's my fault for not offering to add support to jigdo-file for
this, sorry Steve. IMHO, it would have prevented some code from being
duplicated in jte and jigdo-file, permitted the use of jigdo-file's cache
for checksums (= even faster!), and resulted in a smaller patch to mkisofs
which has better chances of being accepted by mkisofs upstream. And 
(unsurprisingly) it doesn't look /that/ hard to me. ;)

:-) To be honest, the code I have is fairly small and self-contained,
and might even be easier to port if necessary - it's all written in
ANSI C. Also, on the caching front - this new code shouldn't slow
things down too much anyway, as we're already reading all the file
data through mkisofs. Most modern machines will MD5 data blocks faster
than they can read them.

It's also not a bad idea to have two different implementations of some
of this code now - it makes it more accessible for other people to
hack on it. It might also have shown up any bugs where your code
didn't match the spec.

 To use this code, specify the location of the output .jigdo, .template
 and .jte files alongside the ISO image. The .jte file is an
 intermediate helper file that I'll probably lose for the next
 release.

What does the .jte file contain now, and why is it needed?

The .jte file _is_ the output for #2 above, as I wrote a while ago. I
was hacking on it further, then decided to move more intelligence into
the mkisofs patch itself. It's essentially my own simple version of a
.template file.

 More features:
 
 2. Add support for -jigdo-exclude option(s), so that we can exclude
(from the jigdo) README.* etc and other files that go on Debian CDs
but often change on the mirrors. Reasonably easy to do, and I'm
playing with this now.
 
 3. Add pattern-matching in the .jigdo file (e.g. /mirror/debian -
Debian:). Again, should be easy.

We'd get both 2. and 3. for free with the post-processing by jigdo-file 
approach, hmm...

They won't be hard, and I'm on a roll now. These will be written
tonight... :-)

 5. MUCH harder: re-reading and re-encoding .iso images that have been
modified since they were first written. This is necessary for
the boot code used on several architectures in debian-cd. I see how
to do it - basically diff the image on disk to the one we would
recreate from the .template file and write a new template file to
match that. It's going to take some work...

But scanning the changed image would also need a lot of time... I think a
different approach looks more promising: Write a special dd-jigdo program
which behaves and works like the original dd in every respect, except
that it works directly on the .template. A simple version of such a program 
could get away without modifying the .jigdo file, and the .template format 
does not make it necessary to recompress all the data in the template - 
just a part of it needs to be recompressed.

Absolutely - I'm hoping to just be able to modify a small chunk of the
compressed template data, and of course then we don't need to touch
the contents of the .jigdo. But we _will_ have to update the template
MD5, of course.

Alternatively: While you're busy hacking on mkisofs, why not add the
functionality there? The use of dd by debian-cd only illustrates that
mkisofs lacks a feature here!

I think dd is the only tool used by debian-cd, to write a boot sector for
some arches - or is there something else?

It varies by platform, I'm afraid. Several arches have a post-iso
process to bless / make a CD bootable. Alpha uses isomarkboot, for
example. I'd expect most of the changes to be contained at the
beginning of the image, but we can't guarantee that. Depending on how
intelligent the BIOS / firmware is on the arch in question, we may
have to scan most of the image to make sure we don't miss
anything. :-(

I think maybe it's time to check out what these boot progs do, and see
if we can do it directly 

Re: cd -- dvd

2004-06-07 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
 I think that in
 http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/ isnt CD
 but DVD version.

This was a mistake I made (cut and paste is not good if you don't change
what needs to be changed) but it was autofixed this morning as the weekly
build finished.

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Re: Why is the new jigdo test template soo large?

2004-06-07 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
 Any clue?

Maybe you got the dvd template that a bug I made put instead of the cd one.

If it was that, it should be solved now, if it isn't please tell us.

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Re: jigdo CD directory contains DVD images

2004-06-07 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
 it seems a mistake was made on the primary mirror for CD jigdo files - the 

Yes, my fault, should be solved now!

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Re: jogdo-files fr die Testing-Distribution auf CD

2004-06-07 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
 Ich habe heute versucht, die CD-images für die Testing-Version von
 Debian herunterzuladen. Dabei gab jigdo-lite für Windows mir den Fehler,
 daß unter Windows keine Image, die größer ist als 2 GB gemacht werden
 kann.

No german here, but I'd say... it was my fault, and it is solved now, if
not, please try to explain in english what the problem is :-)

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USB memory stick

2004-06-07 Thread Maarten Weijman



Debian team,

I am having a slight problem with the live debian 
cd, because my computer does not have a cd drive.
Would it be possible to write the cd images to a 
usb memory stick and let it work?
Your help would be very much 
apreciated.

yours sincerely,

Maarten Weijman


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2004-06-07 Thread Debian Linux Rules
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i have produced some cd covers and would like to share them with the rest of 
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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:29:31AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 I must have blinked and missed these. If you can give me a list of
 which files are needed, or a pointer as to how to work it out I'll get
 onto this later today for you.

See http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2004/05/msg00036.html

When was the last time you checked? Looking at the jigdo file for the
latest sarge image #1:

sledge:/mirror/sarge-cd/jigdo$ zgrep netcfg *jigdo
sarge-i386-1.jigdo:GfQ50NysZ7YJVUyG9VK-Uw=Debian:pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg_0.63_i386.udeb

netcfg seems to be there.

And also discover bits:

DKW499kv8oF0e_2gCgz_GA=Debian:pool/main/d/discover-data/discover-data_2.2004.05.03-3_all.deb
KRk5OVkmzLA1IoPEqv9Rng=Debian:pool/main/d/discover/discover_2.0.4-5_i386.deb
cJygCm3NWHvifSl5794VqQ=Debian:pool/main/d/discover/libdiscover2_2.0.4-5_i386.deb

These are all in the .jigdo file marked
Info='Generated on Sat,  5 Jun 2004 22:52:18 -0600'

so maybe people have just fixed the problem this weekend, perhaps. I'm
writing the latest full CD#1 to a CD-RW now to test it.

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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Joey Hess
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 See http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2004/05/msg00036.html
 
 When was the last time you checked? Looking at the jigdo file for the
 latest sarge image #1:

I have not tried it since I wrote the above mail. I'll download it
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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 12:56:42AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:

sledge:/mirror/sarge-cd/jigdo$ zgrep netcfg *jigdo
sarge-i386-1.jigdo:GfQ50NysZ7YJVUyG9VK-Uw=Debian:pool/main/n/netcfg/netcfg_0.63_i386.udeb

netcfg seems to be there.

And also discover bits:

DKW499kv8oF0e_2gCgz_GA=Debian:pool/main/d/discover-data/discover-data_2.2004.05.03-3_all.deb
KRk5OVkmzLA1IoPEqv9Rng=Debian:pool/main/d/discover/discover_2.0.4-5_i386.deb
cJygCm3NWHvifSl5794VqQ=Debian:pool/main/d/discover/libdiscover2_2.0.4-5_i386.deb

These are all in the .jigdo file marked
Info='Generated on Sat,  5 Jun 2004 22:52:18 -0600'

so maybe people have just fixed the problem this weekend, perhaps. I'm
writing the latest full CD#1 to a CD-RW now to test it.

Hmmm. That wasn't very successful. Netcfg loaded fine off the CD, but
only after I loaded it by hand. The 3c59x driver for the network card
in the test machine just didn't get loaded.

Looking at the *nic* .udebs on the image, they seem quite old (9th
May); is that normal?

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2004-06-07 Thread Rob



"Are DVD images of Debian available?

Yes - as far as we know, Debian is the only Linux distribution to offer 
full-size DVD images for download! Because of their size, these images are 
distributed exclusively with jigdo.

At the moment, only unofficial DVD images for the "unstable" release and 
official ones for the "testing" release can be downloaded."

Fedora core also offers dvdiso that are bootable.seems your alpha 
dvdiso isn't for some reason tho, i've tried and it gives a bootstrap 
failure

just an fyiRob


Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Joey Hess
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Hmmm. That wasn't very successful. Netcfg loaded fine off the CD, but
 only after I loaded it by hand. The 3c59x driver for the network card
 in the test machine just didn't get loaded.
 
 Looking at the *nic* .udebs on the image, they seem quite old (9th
 May); is that normal?

I don't know about the dates, if the nic-modules udeb is for the 2.4.26
kernel and is version 0.62, then it's current.

I think that the problem with netcfg is that it's not in
.disk/udeb_include for these images; its priority does not cause it to
be loaded by default, though we should revisit that since we seem to
want it everywhere. Anyway, listing it, ethdetect, pcmcia-cs-udeb, and
wireless-tools-udeb in .disk/udeb_include may fix that.

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Re: Bug#253033: installation-reports

2004-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Hmmm. That wasn't very successful. Netcfg loaded fine off the CD, but
 only after I loaded it by hand. The 3c59x driver for the network card
 in the test machine just didn't get loaded.
 
 Looking at the *nic* .udebs on the image, they seem quite old (9th
 May); is that normal?

I don't know about the dates, if the nic-modules udeb is for the 2.4.26
kernel and is version 0.62, then it's current.

I think that the problem with netcfg is that it's not in
.disk/udeb_include for these images; its priority does not cause it to
be loaded by default, though we should revisit that since we seem to
want it everywhere. Anyway, listing it, ethdetect, pcmcia-cs-udeb, and
wireless-tools-udeb in .disk/udeb_include may fix that.

Cool. I'll try that now. There's nothing listed there atm:

sledge:/home/steve# less /mnt/.disk/udeb_include 
/mnt/.disk/udeb_include: No such file or directory

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Why the new cd image default 2.6 kernel is k7 ?

2004-06-07 Thread Dongsheng Song
When I using linux26 install , d_i install kernel-image-2.6.6-1-k7 package,
but my machine is P3 !

BTW: When d_i use 2.4 kernel can't find my buslogic disk !


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