Re: 11.8 planning
On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 22:02 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > I'm sending this separately to a similar mail for 12.1. That's > because the > timings are far enough out that they would make sense on separate > weekends, > but they could also be stretched[1] and combined. > > Two months from 29th April is around the 1st July, so I propose: > As we discussed on IRC, when we have both stable and oldstable point releases to do, they should happen on the same day. Otherwise, version skew from packages such as browsers and OpenJDK causes us more work (e.g. openjdk-17 is already at opu > stable). Not that it's directly relevant to this discussion, but the stable point release should also always be first - both because it resolves the version skew more neatly, and because it means the images team can get started on handling stable while the rest of us deal with oldstable. The traditional cadence for oldstable point releases is four months, rather than two. That technically means that 11.8 would be due somewhere in late August to mid-September. So we could either punt 11.8 so it aligns with 12.2 rather than 12.1, or do 11.8 together with 12.1 and then align 11.9 with 12.3. I think I'd prefer the latter option, i.e. we do 11.8+12.1 in July, 12.2 probably September, then 11.9+12.3 Novemberish. > 1st July > 8th July > 15th July at a push The 1st would mean freezing this coming weekend, which is very tight. As per the 12.1 mail, either the 8th or 15th would work for me, with a preference for the latter. Given the explanation above though, I think the 22nd would be fine for 11.8 as well. Regards, Adam
Re: 12.1 planning
On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 22:04 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > The promised 4-6 weeks following release for 12.1 looks like: > > 8th July (4) > 15th July (5) > 22nd July (6) > Any of those should work for me. I'd prefer one of the latter two. > The first of them would combine with a very stretched 11.8; SRM might > prefer to get 11.8 done earlier and leave more time for 12.1 to > mature. That's not entirely accurate, but I'll expand in the 11.8 thread. Regards, Adam
Re: 11.8 planning
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:02:27PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: >Hi, > >I'm sending this separately to a similar mail for 12.1. That's because the >timings are far enough out that they would make sense on separate weekends, >but they could also be stretched[1] and combined. > >Two months from 29th April is around the 1st July, so I propose: > >1st July >8th July >15th July at a push > > >1: a shame that joke hasn't worked for some years now 1st July is out for me, but I can do the others fine. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com The two hard things in computing: * naming things * cache invalidation * off-by-one errors -- Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Re: 12.1 planning
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:04:06PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: >Hi, > >The promised 4-6 weeks following release for 12.1 looks like: > > 8th July (4) >15th July (5) >22nd July (6) > >The first of them would combine with a very stretched 11.8; SRM might >prefer to get 11.8 done earlier and leave more time for 12.1 to mature. All of those work for me. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I used to be the first kid on the block wanting a cranial implant, now I want to be the first with a cranial firewall. " -- Charlie Stross
Re: 11.8 planning
On Mon, 19, Jun, 2023 at 10:02:27PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire spoke thus.. > Hi, > > I'm sending this separately to a similar mail for 12.1. That's because the > timings are far enough out that they would make sense on separate weekends, > but they could also be stretched[1] and combined. > > Two months from 29th April is around the 1st July, so I propose: > > 1st July > 8th July > 15th July at a push Same as the 12.1 - 15th is out, but 1st and 8th are ok. Mark -- Mark Hymers
Re: 12.1 planning
On Mon, 19, Jun, 2023 at 10:04:06PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire spoke thus.. > Hi, > > The promised 4-6 weeks following release for 12.1 looks like: > > 8th July (4) > 15th July (5) > 22nd July (6) > > The first of them would combine with a very stretched 11.8; SRM might > prefer to get 11.8 done earlier and leave more time for 12.1 to mature. I can't do the 15th, so someone else from ftp would have to do it. The other two currently look ok. Mark -- Mark Hymers
