Re: Final CDs being written for Stretch - 9.13 release - prior to LTS

2020-07-18 Thread João Pirralha

I'm just a user, but:

 * I disagree with dropping the first 4GB "DVD" install image, I think
   it's quite useful (although you might just name it "4GB" and drop
   the DVD naming). Users shouldn't need Internet to have a mostly
   functional system, and I cannot imagine they produce too much extra
   overhead to maintain compared to the netinst images for example.
 * I agree that non-install images (-*DVD-2, etc.) should be dropped.
   Users can use tools such as debmirror to easily create a local
   repository if they wish to.
 * I know this is somewhat controversial, but images with non-free
   firmware are also quite important in practice. I suggest to also
   produce a 16GB image with non-free firmware.
 * 16GB is a common size for cheap USB drives nowadays, so I think 4GB
   and 16GB would be good sizes for these offline images.

Thank you.


Às 23:48 de 18/07/20, Dan Ritter escreveu:

Andrew Cater wrote:

Separately, we also had a quick think about the numbers of iso images in
general. A suggestion: For the future, we should produce physical media for
the netinst.iso, the first DVD image in any set and one larger image to be
written to a USB stick if wanted - and corresponding source for each size.
All other .iso files to be distributed as .jigdo and .template files.In
most instances, the netinst is enough, if you have network connectivity and
bandwidth. The DVD is enough to install the basis of any of the graphical
environments readily. This does not mean that you couldn't produce every
other image - but very few people are on a desert island and need every
piece of software Debian has produced on physical media.


At this point in 2020, I think it would be reasonable to only produce
netinst images and jigdo (and live, but that's a different-ish
project). Drop the DVD images.

All of my installs in the last six years have either been via a
USB netinst image or PXE. New laptops and desktops are generally
shipping without optical drives at all. My oldest non-toy
hardware can boot via USB.

-dsr-



Bug#917824: possible to have debian buster alpha iso's with non-free firmwares

2018-12-30 Thread João Pirralha

Hi, buster DI alpha ISO's with non-free firmware are located here:

https://get.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/buster_di_alpha4+nonfree/

(I made a mistake in my previous e-mail.)

Às 18:55 de 30/12/18, shirish शिरीष escreveu:

Package: debian-cd
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,
Would it be possible to have debian buster alpha iso's with non-free firmware.
I did see https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_alpha4/amd64/iso-cd/

But it arguably would be better if we also have the alpha CD's with
non-free firmwar.e

It doesn't make sense especially if there are no wireless drivers
(broadcom etc.) and people have to hunt for them and the dependency
hell.

It would be especially useful if it was netinst.iso itself so we would
have something minimum to connect with the mirrors otherwise you are
stuck to trying an ethernet line, connector to connect with the web,
try to download the driver packages and any dependency hell in case
something is/was needed and is not there in the .iso.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: buster/sid
   APT prefers testing
   APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500,
'testing-debug'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental-debug'), (1,
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_IN:en
(charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages debian-cd depends on:
ii  apt   1.8.0~alpha2
pn  bc
ii  bzip2 1.0.6-9
ii  cpp   4:8.2.0-2
ii  curl  7.62.0-1
ii  dctrl-tools [grep-dctrl]  2.24-3
ii  dpkg-dev  1.19.2
ii  genisoimage   9:1.1.11-3+b2
pn  libcompress-zlib-perl 
pn  libdigest-md5-perl
pn  libdigest-sha-perl
ii  libdpkg-perl  1.19.2
ii  lynx  2.8.9rel.1-2
ii  make  4.2.1-1.2
ii  perl  5.28.1-3
ii  tofrodos  1.7.13+ds-4
ii  wget  1.20-1

Versions of packages debian-cd recommends:
ii  dosfstools   4.1-2
pn  hfsutils 
pn  isolinux 
ii  mtools   4.0.18-2.1
ii  netpbm   2:10.0-15.3+b2
pn  syslinux-common  
pn  syslinux-utils   

debian-cd suggests no packages.






Re: Bug#917824: possible to have debian buster alpha iso's with non-free firmwares

2018-12-30 Thread João Pirralha

Hi, buster DI alpha ISO's with non-free firmware are located here:

https://get.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/buster_di_alpha4+nonfree/


Às 18:55 de 30/12/18, shirish शिरीष escreveu:

Package: debian-cd
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,
Would it be possible to have debian buster alpha iso's with non-free firmware.
I did see https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_alpha4/amd64/iso-cd/

But it arguably would be better if we also have the alpha CD's with
non-free firmwar.e

It doesn't make sense especially if there are no wireless drivers
(broadcom etc.) and people have to hunt for them and the dependency
hell.

It would be especially useful if it was netinst.iso itself so we would
have something minimum to connect with the mirrors otherwise you are
stuck to trying an ethernet line, connector to connect with the web,
try to download the driver packages and any dependency hell in case
something is/was needed and is not there in the .iso.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: buster/sid
   APT prefers testing
   APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500,
'testing-debug'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental-debug'), (1,
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_IN:en
(charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages debian-cd depends on:
ii  apt   1.8.0~alpha2
pn  bc
ii  bzip2 1.0.6-9
ii  cpp   4:8.2.0-2
ii  curl  7.62.0-1
ii  dctrl-tools [grep-dctrl]  2.24-3
ii  dpkg-dev  1.19.2
ii  genisoimage   9:1.1.11-3+b2
pn  libcompress-zlib-perl 
pn  libdigest-md5-perl
pn  libdigest-sha-perl
ii  libdpkg-perl  1.19.2
ii  lynx  2.8.9rel.1-2
ii  make  4.2.1-1.2
ii  perl  5.28.1-3
ii  tofrodos  1.7.13+ds-4
ii  wget  1.20-1

Versions of packages debian-cd recommends:
ii  dosfstools   4.1-2
pn  hfsutils 
pn  isolinux 
ii  mtools   4.0.18-2.1
ii  netpbm   2:10.0-15.3+b2
pn  syslinux-common  
pn  syslinux-utils   

debian-cd suggests no packages.






Feature-request: USB flash drive sized images (8G, 16G, etc.)

2016-07-22 Thread João Pirralha

Hello,

I'd like to request the addition of USB flash drive sized images, since 
that's probably the most used storage medium for non-mass installations 
nowadays, for architectures that can boot via USB.


The capacities would be 8G, 16G, 32G and 64G, the currently most common 
capacities, increasing in the future as necessary. (Decimal base, as 
that’s what storage vendors use.)


There would only be one image for each of these capacities containing 
the most used packages up to the capacity, as it's typically cheaper to 
buy one USB flash drive with a certain capacity than two with half that 
capacity. Maybe an exception for the biggest capacity available.


These images would be offered via jigdo, with the exception of the 8G image.

I don’t know if these images should/can be hybrid – they should be 
what’s easier to maintain.


I think these images would be significantly more useful than the BD and 
DLBD images, since that storage medium is relatively uncommonly used.


Thank you,
João Pirralha



Debian 2.2 and 1.3.1 ISO images

2016-04-09 Thread João Pirralha

Hello,

I noticed that some Debian 2.x ISO images have been made available at [1].

There were official-looking Debian 2.2r7 CD images available at [2], but 
the FTP site seems to have been deactivated. I happened to archive it 
some months ago [3], including the MD5SUMS, and I backed up these images 
to [4] and [5].


There are also Debian 1.3.1 CD images that look original available at [6].

Perhaps you could add these images to the archive?

Thank you for your attention,
João Pirralha

[1] http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/older-contrib/
[2] http://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/2.2_r7/
[3] 
https://web.archive.org/web/20151212194124/http://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/2.2_r7/

[4] https://archive.org/details/debian_2.2r7_i386
[5] https://archive.org/details/debian_2.2r7_source
[6] https://github.com/rdebath/debian-bo