Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:18:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? Good idea, yes. And I now have code to generate the following as README.excluded on CD1: (example from currently-running squeeze i386 CD run) == For size reasons, the following packages were excluded from this disc set: nexuiz-data openarena-data and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: Could this say 'to be excluded becauase' == -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:18:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? Good idea, yes. And I now have code to generate the following as README.excluded on CD1: (example from currently-running squeeze i386 CD run) == For size reasons, the following packages were excluded from this disc set: nexuiz-data openarena-data and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: Could this say 'to be excluded' instead of 'to be removed'? I'm worried it'll confuse people into thinking 'removed, what, completely?'. == -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:18:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? Good idea, yes. And I now have code to generate the following as README.excluded on CD1: (example from currently-running squeeze i386 CD run) == For size reasons, the following packages were excluded from this disc set: nexuiz-data openarena-data and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: Could this say 'to be excluded' instead of 'to be removed'? I'm worried it'll confuse peo == -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:43:27 +1030 Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: Could this say 'to be excluded' instead of 'to be removed'? I'm worried it'll confuse people into thinking 'removed, what, completely?'. Sorry about this, I've managed to make claws-mail explode in such a way its replying to long forgotten threads. (Wonder how many other lists its hit ... guess I'll be finding out for days). kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (20/11/2009): If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist this package altogether. And you didn't see Urban Terror and its 700+ MB yet! Speaking of which, what's the status of data.debian.org? IIRC, it's been in the pipe for 2+ years at the very least (was already mentioned during DC'07). :) Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
Am 2009-11-20 10:36:10, schrieb Steve McIntyre: Umm... Package: nexuiz-data snip Size: 793400238 If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist this package altogether. Does Debian realy continue to offer CD's in the future? I have already problems to get one... :-/ Where ever you go, you can find DVD. Note: The OpenSource Game I am working on with a group will be never distributed on a CD because there are already over 10 files bigger then a 800 MByte CD. Maybe on 50 GByte BlueRay medias. :-D Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # http://www.tamay-dogan.net/ Michelle Konzack http://www.can4linux.org/ Apt. 917 http://www.flexray4linux.org/ 50, rue de Soultz Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de 67100 Strabourg/France IRC#Debian (irc.icq.com) Tel. DE: +49 177 9351947 ICQ#328449886 Tel. FR: +33 6 61925193 signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (20/11/2009): And you didn't see Urban Terror and its 700+ MB yet! Speaking of which, what's the status of data.debian.org? IIRC, it's been in the pipe for 2+ years at the very least (was already mentioned during DC'07). :) OOH. http://ftp-master.debian.org/wiki/projects/data/ Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to
have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist
this package altogether.
Even though they do technically still fit on a CD, you may want to consider
excluding the following packages as well, as including them essentially
means having roughly 4 CD images dedicated to 9 packages.
53450 vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb
395642608 root-system-doc_5.24.00-1_all.deb
357422076 sauerbraten-data_0.0.20090504-1_all.deb
306308472 openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb
250166552 fgfs-base_1.9.0-1_all.deb
235440078 kwwidgets-doc_1.0.0~cvs20090825-2_all.deb
220393788 alien-arena-data_7.0-1_all.deb
211831974 fgfs-base_1.0.0-2_all.deb
206728944 ember-media_0.5.7-1_all.deb
The selection was size 2 from:
.../debian/pool$ ls -lR | grep \.deb$ | awk '{print $5 $8}' | \
sort -rn | head -n 25
Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:21:21PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to
have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist
this package altogether.
Even though they do technically still fit on a CD, you may want to consider
excluding the following packages as well, as including them essentially
means having roughly 4 CD images dedicated to 9 packages.
53450 vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb
395642608 root-system-doc_5.24.00-1_all.deb
357422076 sauerbraten-data_0.0.20090504-1_all.deb
306308472 openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb
250166552 fgfs-base_1.9.0-1_all.deb
235440078 kwwidgets-doc_1.0.0~cvs20090825-2_all.deb
220393788 alien-arena-data_7.0-1_all.deb
211831974 fgfs-base_1.0.0-2_all.deb
206728944 ember-media_0.5.7-1_all.deb
The selection was size 2 from:
.../debian/pool$ ls -lR | grep \.deb$ | awk '{print $5 $8}' | \
sort -rn | head -n 25
For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package
size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will
be dropped from the squeeze CD builds:
306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb
53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb
793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb
The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so
any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped.
For DVD and BD disks we'll accept any size (for now).
This should also be added to the release notes, please.
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Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? Good idea, yes. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com C++ ate my sanity -- Jon Rabone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist this package altogether. Even though they do technically still fit on a CD, you may want to consider excluding the following packages as well, as including them essentially means having roughly 4 CD images dedicated to 9 packages. 53450 vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb Slightly off topic, but I have been login some recommendations to divide the size of this package by at least a factor of 2. Reference (will be updated whenever tracking system process my mail) : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=vtk-doc Cheers -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:18:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? Good idea, yes. And I now have code to generate the following as README.excluded on CD1: (example from currently-running squeeze i386 CD run) == For size reasons, the following packages were excluded from this disc set: nexuiz-data openarena-data and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: nexuiz nexuiz-dbg nexuiz-server nexuiz-server-dbg openarena openarena-server == -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:18:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote: For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will be dropped from the squeeze CD builds: 306308472 pool/main/o/openarena-data/openarena-data_0.8.1-2_all.deb 53450 pool/main/v/vtk/vtk-doc_5.2.1-11_all.deb 793400238 pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb The debian-cd code will automatically pick up on dependencies too, so any packages that *depend* on these will also be dropped. Would it be possible to generate a list of excluded packages and add that as a README on CD1? Good idea, yes. And I now have code to generate the following as README.excluded on CD1: (example from currently-running squeeze i386 CD run) == For size reasons, the following packages were excluded from this disc set: nexuiz-data openarena-data and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: Could this say 'to be excluded' instead of 'to be removed'? I'm worried it'll confuse people into thinking 'removed, what, completely?'. Thanks, kk == -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ridiculously large packages somewhat Off Topic
Is it just me or did anyone else think that the title of this thread was suspiciously like a lot of spam that you get ? - Original Message - From: Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au To: debian-cd@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Ridiculously large packages -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:49:07AM +1030, Karl Goetz wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: And I now have code to generate the following as README.excluded on CD1: (example from currently-running squeeze i386 CD run) == For size reasons, the following packages were excluded from this disc set: nexuiz-data openarena-data and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: Could this say 'to be excluded' instead of 'to be removed'? I'm worried it'll confuse people into thinking 'removed, what, completely?'. Doh! Of course. I had used removed twice originally then changed one but not the other... :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com You lock the door And throw away the key There's someone in my head but it's not me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ridiculously large packages
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:45:15 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:49:07AM +1030, Karl Goetz wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:27 + Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: and that caused the following packages to be removed because of dependencies: Could this say 'to be excluded' instead of 'to be removed'? I'm worried it'll confuse people into thinking 'removed, what, completely?'. Doh! Of course. I had used removed twice originally then changed one but not the other... :-) Thanks! kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature
