What's in squeeze DVD #1 was Re: lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

2010-12-16 Thread shirish शिरीष
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 03:57, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 20:01 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 14:02 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
   How should I name the new metapackage? My first thought is just to move
   these packages from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core, and to make
   gnome-core the key package.

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Hi all,
First of all sorry for jumping on the thread. I thought  I read the
interesting thread, and thought it was a better idea .

I downloaded squeeze beta 1 about a month ago. At that point in time,
the documentation about the DVD read something similar to this :-

1. It includes standard Debian CD installation + languages  (it was
not specifically written like that but atleast I perceived it to be
like that, the word usage I don't remember).

and I was sorta disappointed to download the whole DVD as I didn't
want the other languages but more utilities (like network-manager,
wvdial and most networking and troubleshooting tools)

Now from this discussion I am curious to know what metapackages are
inside say the beta2-DVD1 ?

Looking forward for answers.
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Re: lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

2010-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Where can that list be found? It looks correct, but different from the
 one in tasksel.

That is the Key packages from the gnome-desktop and desktop tasks in
tasksel.

 So one of the solutions would be to ditch Recommends.

I was wrong about recommends being included currently.

 Full GNOME is already not included, since that would be the “gnome”
 package, not “gnome-desktop-environment”.

Well, that is included in the task as a non-key package, so is
downloaded if possible. (And should be included on the DVD, assuming all
of gnome fits on a DVD :)

 If you really want to make it fit on a CD, we could use the following
 list instead of the one above:
 gnome-core
 dmz-cursor-theme
 epiphany-browser (or iceweasel, but epiphany should be smaller)
 gdm3
 desktop-base
 evince
 file-roller
 gnome-about
 gnome-keyring
 gnome-screensaver
 gnome-themes
 gnome-user-guide
 gtk2-engines
 gvfs-backends
 libgnome2-perl (unless someone finally fixes #542175)
 policykit-1-gnome
 gnome-disk-utility
 And if possible:
 gstreamer0.10-alsa
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
 totem
 evolution
 
 I can make a metapackage out of this list if it can help.

We should probably do that. That's enough of gnome not to be laughable? 
(network-manager-gnome seems to not be included in that, but then it's
recommended by the gnome-metapackage so would not be included from the 
current gnome-desktop-enviromnent using task either, if installing w/o
a network, I think..)

Rough size numbers (probably 20 mb or more off in some direction):

   i386amd64
available space on CD #1 for gnome 372 mb  392 mb
-
gnome-desktop-environment with recommends  543 mb  584 mb
gnome-desktop-environment no recommends366 mb  394 mb
list 1+2 with recommends   411 mb  436 mb
list 1+2 no recommends 257 mb  279 mb
list 1 with recommends 307 mb  332 mb
list 1 no recommends   214 mb  236 mb

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Re: lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

2010-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Josselin Mouette wrote:
 This would need to be tested, but 1+2 without recommends sounds like the
 good thing to add. We could remove the mail client (evolution) if it
 turns out too big, nowadays the media player looks more important.

I'm testing 1+2 in tasksel 2.87 and we can move the list back into a
metapackage if it works. (Uploaded; hopefully the next build of the CD
will have the change.)

 How should I name the new metapackage? My first thought is just to move
 these packages from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core, and to make
 gnome-core the key package.

Sounds ok to me.

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Re: lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

2010-12-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 14:02 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : 
  How should I name the new metapackage? My first thought is just to move
  these packages from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core, and to make
  gnome-core the key package.
 
 Sounds ok to me.

I’ve uploaded meta-gnome2 1:2.30+7 with the proposed changes, except
for: 
  * gdm3: you’ll still have to add it in tasksel 
  * libgnome2-perl, which on second thought is mostly useless
without synaptic

Please unblock.

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Re: lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

2010-12-05 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 20:01 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 14:02 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : 
   How should I name the new metapackage? My first thought is just to move
   these packages from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core, and to make
   gnome-core the key package.
  
  Sounds ok to me.
 
 I’ve uploaded meta-gnome2 1:2.30+7 with the proposed changes, except
 for: 
   * gdm3: you’ll still have to add it in tasksel 
   * libgnome2-perl, which on second thought is mostly useless
 without synaptic
 
 Please unblock.

Unblocked by Mehdi.

Regards,

Adam


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