Re: Woody non-US CDs

2002-04-14 Thread Anthony Towns 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:24:23PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
  That would presumably be on the assumptions that all crypto packages
  will be in main before release (which doesn't seem very likely at
  present) and that those were the only things that were in non-US
  (which is not the case either)
 No, I think what has so far been the binary-1-NONUS CD is going to
 become the binary-1 CD - no special US version. non-US ==
 cryptographic code according to policy 2.1.5:

The exact polocy wrt non-US stuff is confused. It's safest to treat
it as copyright is freely licensed, but restricted for miscellaneous
other reasons and be quite conservative about what you do with it.

  We'll still need non-US for those things that are patented in the
  USA, and presumably also for a growing band of programs that are
  deemed to infringe on the DMCA and other bizarre American laws.
 Hm, I'm confused - I thought that either these programs cannot be
 packaged at all, or they end up in (non-US/)non-free.

Not consistently, no. The c-i-m bug http://bugs.debian.org/81852 eg,
expects patented stuff to go in non-US/main.

 AJ, could you please clarify: Do we need two versions of the first CD?

We need a main-only CD. I'm not really sure there's a huge need for
a non-US/main CD. (Or, at least, whether there will be once mozilla and
postgresql and a hanful of others propogate to woody/main, which will be
over the next couple of days)

Cheers,
aj

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Woody non-US CDs

2002-04-13 Thread Richard Atterer 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 01:40:41PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 11:09, Richard Atterer wrote:
  But again: I thought that beginning with woody there will no
  longer be two variants of the first CD?
 
 That would presumably be on the assumptions that all crypto packages
 will be in main before release (which doesn't seem very likely at
 present) and that those were the only things that were in non-US
 (which is not the case either)

No, I think what has so far been the binary-1-NONUS CD is going to
become the binary-1 CD - no special US version. non-US ==
cryptographic code according to policy 2.1.5:

Some programs with cryptographic program code need to be stored on
the non-US server because of United States export restrictions. 
Such programs must be distributed in the appropriate non-US
section, either non-US/main, non-US/contrib or non-US/non-free.

 We'll still need non-US for those things that are patented in the
 USA, and presumably also for a growing band of programs that are
 deemed to infringe on the DMCA and other bizarre American laws.

Hm, I'm confused - I thought that either these programs cannot be
packaged at all, or they end up in (non-US/)non-free.

AJ, could you please clarify: Do we need two versions of the first CD?

Cheers,

  Richard

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