Re: powerpc 2.2r4
jason andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 30 Nov 2001, Philip Hands wrote: Anyway, there is now a new directory 2.2_rev4.1 next to the 2.2_rev4 directory, and the powerpc subdirectory has been moved to it. i've updated this at planetmirror.com and just finished rsyncing from cdimage (as usual, only 1_NONUS, plus 2 and 3). it's pretty quick and it looks like only a few meg of changes overall. can i suggest a link from 2.2_rev4/powerpc to point at 2.2_rev4.1/powerpc Good idea. Done. btw, i don't know if people noticed but rsync 2.5.0 just appeared.. I'm moving house this weekend, so I doubt I'll get round to packaging it until next week. If you notice that I've not done so by the middle of the week, feel free to remind me. Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)118 9545656]http://www.hands.com/ |-| Philip Hands Computing Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| Unit 1, Cherry Close, Caversham, Reading RG4 8UP ENGLAND -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On 30 Nov 2001, Philip Hands wrote: Anyway, there is now a new directory 2.2_rev4.1 next to the 2.2_rev4 directory, and the powerpc subdirectory has been moved to it. i've updated this at planetmirror.com and just finished rsyncing from cdimage (as usual, only 1_NONUS, plus 2 and 3). it's pretty quick and it looks like only a few meg of changes overall. can i suggest a link from 2.2_rev4/powerpc to point at 2.2_rev4.1/powerpc btw, i don't know if people noticed but rsync 2.5.0 just appeared.. regards, -jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On 17 Nov 2001, Philip Hands wrote: lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 17 Nov 2001, Philip Hands wrote: So, rebuilding them with the latest CVS will sort out the problem then, will it? I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). Please, please, please dont change the CD point release for anything other than ppc (at leat not for i386) - we've just receieved 500 sets with 2.2r4 printed on them :( No, wasn't planning on doing so. Can the ppc iso be 2.2r4.1 or 2.2r4.0a as it doesnt actually have any fixes (apart from for itself ) ?? 2.2 r4.1 seemed reasonable to me, unless anyone's got a better suggestion, and I'll put a README.2.2_r4.1 in the 2.2_r4.1 subdirectory, mentioning that the only change was to make the powerpc Cds bootable, so don't expect anything other than powerpc to be updated. Great. Regards lance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 05:57:45AM -0900, Ethan Benson écrivait: If so, any ideas what I did wrong? its not your fault its mine, for one i was under the apparently mistaken impression that older versions of debian-cd were uses for potato anyway (someone i think debian-cd's maintainer told me this). Yes, and it was so for 2.2r3. Anne had setup a CVS branch (off22r3) for building potato images ... i've even been bashed because I broke debian-cd CVS without tagging a good version that was usable to build potato CDs. For this time, it will be ok. But we'll try to do better for woody ... using debian-cd CVS for building an already released Debian version will always be problematic. Documentation included changes, CD characteristics also, even boot images used can change ... To make this more problematic, there is the fact that I've upgraded open.hands.com (cdimage.d.o) to woody, in order to be in a position to build woody CDs. This means that the old debian-cd doesn't like the new options for mkisofs, among other things. Perhaps I should set up a chroot environment for building CDs, so that they are always built using tools available in the release, rather than whatever happens to be on open at the time. On the other hand, if mkisofs or some other tool has a bug fixed that makes the resulting images better in some way, is there really any point in producing images that are not as good as they might be. Also, I get the impression that the changes like those that move junk off CD1 are only in the latest branch, which would mean either duplicating the patching testing effort to get it back into the old debian-cd, or that the r4 CDs would have had as many copies of the kernel on CD1 as the r3 ones. Cheers, Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:06:24PM +, Philip Hands wrote: I used the CVS version (as at about Nov 6 2001) So, are the official 2.2 r4 CDs unbootable? on powerpc yes. If so, any ideas what I did wrong? its not your fault its mine, for one i was under the apparently mistaken impression that older versions of debian-cd were uses for potato anyway (someone i think debian-cd's maintainer told me this). That was true up until r3, but I've upgraded open.hands.com (cdimage.d.o) to testing recently, in order to be able to build woody CDs on a woody system, so was using the new mkisofs, and saw that the latest debian-cd supported that, and had the stuff for reducing the amount of rubbish on CD1, so thought I'd take advantage of the new stuff. I should probably have asked how sane that was first. and secondly i forgot about the broken excuse for yaboot we have in potato. current cvs (or 2.2.9) debian-cd will use a kludged yaboot.conf for potato CDs and a correct one for woody. if its possible to generate a r4.1 or something for powerpc images that would be nice, otherwise we will just have to wait for r5. (nobody built fixed boot-floppies for powerpc either so r4 really is a mess on powerpc). So, rebuilding them with the latest CVS will sort out the problem then, will it? I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)118 9545656]http://www.hands.com/ |-| Philip Hands Computing Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| Unit 1, Cherry Close, Caversham, Reading RG4 8UP ENGLAND -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:08:45PM +, Philip Hands wrote: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:06:24PM +, Philip Hands wrote: I used the CVS version (as at about Nov 6 2001) So, are the official 2.2 r4 CDs unbootable? on powerpc yes. If so, any ideas what I did wrong? its not your fault its mine, for one i was under the apparently mistaken impression that older versions of debian-cd were uses for potato anyway (someone i think debian-cd's maintainer told me this). That was true up until r3, but I've upgraded open.hands.com (cdimage.d.o) to testing recently, in order to be able to build woody CDs on a woody system, so was using the new mkisofs, and saw that the latest debian-cd supported that, and had the stuff for reducing the amount of rubbish on CD1, so thought I'd take advantage of the new stuff. I should probably have asked how sane that was first. the new mkisofs is also a good thing for powerpc, as well as the fixed first stage bootloader in debian-cd (all potato CDs have been unbootable on most machines, except by manually entering commands into OpenFirwmare due to this). So, rebuilding them with the latest CVS will sort out the problem then, will it? for the bootability problem yes it should, though i cannot test my changes unfortunatly, since i simply don't have the disk space nor bandwidth. the change was really rather trivial though. I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). ok great. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ msg02323/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). ok great. OK, they're here: rsync://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd-test/powerpc/ They should be very similar to the existing 2.2_r4 images, so get rsyncing, and tell me how you get on. Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)118 9545656]http://www.hands.com/ |-| Philip Hands Computing Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| Unit 1, Cherry Close, Caversham, Reading RG4 8UP ENGLAND -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:54:07PM +, Philip Hands wrote: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). ok great. OK, they're here: rsync://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd-test/powerpc/ They should be very similar to the existing 2.2_r4 images, so get rsyncing, and tell me how you get on. as i have said it would take decades for me to download this, someone else needs to do the testing. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ msg02326/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: as i have said it would take decades for me to download this, someone else needs to do the testing. if you already had a full cdimage prior to this, it should only take a short time to rsync over it. if you don't, then you're right - it'll take ages. -jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On 17 Nov 2001, Philip Hands wrote: So, rebuilding them with the latest CVS will sort out the problem then, will it? I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). Please, please, please dont change the CD point release for anything other than ppc (at leat not for i386) - we've just receieved 500 sets with 2.2r4 printed on them :( Can the ppc iso be 2.2r4.1 or 2.2r4.0a as it doesnt actually have any fixes (apart from for itself ) ?? We'll rsync and try to test bootability on Monday - we've got a mac in the office that isnt doing much at the moment ;) Regards Lance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 17 Nov 2001, Philip Hands wrote: So, rebuilding them with the latest CVS will sort out the problem then, will it? I'll do that, and put the new image up for rsync, so people can test it. If all's well, I'll do a CD point release (unless people come up with compelling reasons not to). Please, please, please dont change the CD point release for anything other than ppc (at leat not for i386) - we've just receieved 500 sets with 2.2r4 printed on them :( No, wasn't planning on doing so. Can the ppc iso be 2.2r4.1 or 2.2r4.0a as it doesnt actually have any fixes (apart from for itself ) ?? 2.2 r4.1 seemed reasonable to me, unless anyone's got a better suggestion, and I'll put a README.2.2_r4.1 in the 2.2_r4.1 subdirectory, mentioning that the only change was to make the powerpc Cds bootable, so don't expect anything other than powerpc to be updated. Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)118 9545656]http://www.hands.com/ |-| Philip Hands Computing Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| Unit 1, Cherry Close, Caversham, Reading RG4 8UP ENGLAND -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 03:22:30PM +0100, Karsten Droste wrote: hi, I 'pseudo image kit'ed the binary-powerpc-1_NONUS.iso image of debian potato 2.2r4. BUT after booting yaboot could not find any images. r4 CDs won't be bootable. you need to build them with older debian-cd (from potato era) or else use CVS debian-cd. I used the CVS version (as at about Nov 6 2001) So, are the official 2.2 r4 CDs unbootable? If so, any ideas what I did wrong? Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)118 9545656]http://www.hands.com/ |-| Philip Hands Computing Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| Unit 1, Cherry Close, Caversham, Reading RG4 8UP ENGLAND -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:06:24PM +, Philip Hands wrote: I used the CVS version (as at about Nov 6 2001) So, are the official 2.2 r4 CDs unbootable? on powerpc yes. If so, any ideas what I did wrong? its not your fault its mine, for one i was under the apparently mistaken impression that older versions of debian-cd were uses for potato anyway (someone i think debian-cd's maintainer told me this). and secondly i forgot about the broken excuse for yaboot we have in potato. current cvs (or 2.2.9) debian-cd will use a kludged yaboot.conf for potato CDs and a correct one for woody. if its possible to generate a r4.1 or something for powerpc images that would be nice, otherwise we will just have to wait for r5. (nobody built fixed boot-floppies for powerpc either so r4 really is a mess on powerpc). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ msg02296/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: powerpc 2.2r4
Le Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 05:57:45AM -0900, Ethan Benson écrivait: If so, any ideas what I did wrong? its not your fault its mine, for one i was under the apparently mistaken impression that older versions of debian-cd were uses for potato anyway (someone i think debian-cd's maintainer told me this). Yes, and it was so for 2.2r3. Anne had setup a CVS branch (off22r3) for building potato images ... i've even been bashed because I broke debian-cd CVS without tagging a good version that was usable to build potato CDs. For this time, it will be ok. But we'll try to do better for woody ... using debian-cd CVS for building an already released Debian version will always be problematic. Documentation included changes, CD characteristics also, even boot images used can change ... By using the CVS debian-cd now, you lose dpkg-multicd support. And maybe some of our stable users rely on this. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Le bouche à oreille du Net : http://www.beetell.com Naviguer sans se fatiguer à chercher : http://www.deenoo.com Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
powerpc 2.2r4
hi, I 'pseudo image kit'ed the binary-powerpc-1_NONUS.iso image of debian potato 2.2r4. BUT after booting yaboot could not find any images. karsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
