Are PIK mirrors obsolete?
On mirrors.kernel.org, we recently suffered a major disk failure, which among other things ate our PIK CD mirror setup. I went to look for the software again, and find that it has mostly been superceded by jigdo, and that is the only way to download the Debian DVD images. It makes me reluctant to spend the work to resurrect the debian-cd mirror on mirrors.kernel.org. Perhaps someone could explain the situation as well as this jigdo business to me... -hpa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are PIK mirrors obsolete?
On Sun, 26 May 2002, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On mirrors.kernel.org, we recently suffered a major disk failure, which among other things ate our PIK CD mirror setup. I went to look for the software again, and find that it has mostly been superceded by jigdo, and that is the only way to download the Debian DVD images. PIK was kind of inefficient and required a final rsync to get the full image, which requires (at least) the master site to carry a full set of images. Jigdo is kind of a better PIK in that it builds an actual image, not just a pseudo-image from a jigdo file and a template (containing the literal data not found in packages on your local debian mirror). Since no mirror carries the Debian DVD images jigdo is the only way to get it. The downsides if jigdo is that it is a fairly complex C++ program which means some portability issues when dealing with older systems. There exists a C port, but that is not actively maintained currenlty. It is also a fairly new system, which means just the obvious bugs have been noticed and taken care of. I believe there are some usability issues to take care of after The Release. It makes me reluctant to spend the work to resurrect the debian-cd mirror on mirrors.kernel.org. Perhaps someone could explain the situation as well as this jigdo business to me... Basically, what you need to do is install the jigdo program and then this script (with a few modifications) should do the job of building images from a mirror of the jigdo files: http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/debian-push/jigdo-mirror Richard: Perhaps the jigdo-mirror script should be in a more official place than here and in the list archives? /Mattias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are PIK mirrors obsolete?
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Basically, what you need to do is install the jigdo program and then this script (with a few modifications) should do the job of building images from a mirror of the jigdo files: http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/debian-push/jigdo-mirror Richard: Perhaps the jigdo-mirror script should be in a more official place than here and in the list archives? Okay... we had the same issue with PIK before the debcdmirror script came out (and there is a similar issue with the RedHat-apt scripts, but that's another issue.) Seriously, I won't be setting up anything until there is a standard piece of software I can download, configure, make (whatever), point it at a configuration file and have it operate autonomously, creating the whole directory hierarchy. It's too much work for me to operate anything else. -hpa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are PIK mirrors obsolete?
On Sun, 26 May 2002, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Basically, what you need to do is install the jigdo program and then this script (with a few modifications) should do the job of building images from a mirror of the jigdo files: http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/debian-push/jigdo-mirror Richard: Perhaps the jigdo-mirror script should be in a more official place than here and in the list archives? Okay... we had the same issue with PIK before the debcdmirror script came out (and there is a similar issue with the RedHat-apt scripts, but that's another issue.) The jigdo-mirror script would be the equivalent of debcdmirror, it could probably use some work since I think I am the only one that has reported usage of it (and I found some issues). Seriously, I won't be setting up anything until there is a standard piece of software I can download, configure, make (whatever), point it at a configuration file and have it operate autonomously, creating the whole directory hierarchy. It's too much work for me to operate anything else. This is what jigdo-mirror is supposed to do. It does depend on the jigdo binary, which should be a simple configure, make, install (if it compiles). But you could always do plain old rsync-mirroring. Sure, you'll download quite a bit more data than strictly needed if you also have a debian mirror, but I woulnd't mind if you did that to my mirror (ftp.acc.umu.se, aka ftp.se.debian.org aka ftp.gnome.org). Or you could wait until after the woody release, jigdo is new and really put into place with the distribution of woody images. I'm sure most issues will be dealt with a couple of weeks after that. Actually, that would be my suggestion if you don't want to deal with this now. Run a plain rsync-mirror from us and come back to this issue later when you have the time and the software might have matured a bit. /Mttias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are PIK mirrors obsolete?
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: But you could always do plain old rsync-mirroring. Sure, you'll download quite a bit more data than strictly needed if you also have a debian mirror, but I woulnd't mind if you did that to my mirror (ftp.acc.umu.se, aka ftp.se.debian.org aka ftp.gnome.org). Or you could wait until after the woody release, jigdo is new and really put into place with the distribution of woody images. I'm sure most issues will be dealt with a couple of weeks after that. Actually, that would be my suggestion if you don't want to deal with this now. Run a plain rsync-mirror from us and come back to this issue later when you have the time and the software might have matured a bit. Works for me... which module should I mirror? -hpa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are PIK mirrors obsolete?
On Sun, 26 May 2002, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Mattias Wadenstein wrote: But you could always do plain old rsync-mirroring. Sure, you'll download quite a bit more data than strictly needed if you also have a debian mirror, but I woulnd't mind if you did that to my mirror (ftp.acc.umu.se, aka ftp.se.debian.org aka ftp.gnome.org). Or you could wait until after the woody release, jigdo is new and really put into place with the distribution of woody images. I'm sure most issues will be dealt with a couple of weeks after that. Actually, that would be my suggestion if you don't want to deal with this now. Run a plain rsync-mirror from us and come back to this issue later when you have the time and the software might have matured a bit. Works for me... which module should I mirror? ftp.acc.umu.se::debian-iso If you just want a mirror of the official released images. I have some other images around too, but that module is the place where official images will end up. /Mattias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo and template
Hello Jianbo, On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:36:37AM -0700, Jianbo Wang wrote: I tried to use jigdo-easy to download CD image, but got an error oops, cannot download all the files No matter how I tried, that always happened. There's currently a problem with the jigdo files for 2.2r6 which makes jigdo fail on the generation of the binary-1(-nonus) CD for i386. Additionally, jigdo-easy is a bit problematic (in comparison to jigdo-lite, it doesn't support fallback sites)... What you should do is to keep around your half-finished CD image download. In a few days, when the problem has been fixed, restart jigdo-easy and enter the following servers: Debian: http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/ Non-US: http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/non-US/ It will be able to retrieve the remaining files from there. (If you tried that right now, you'd notice that one single file cannot be found even with these server values.) I found that the jigdo file is the current, but the template file is 2-3 weeks older than jigdo file. Yes, but that's OK. What's the best way to download debian image? If you don't want to wait, you can use rsync to get the remaining parts of the image. See the bottom of http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/. A version of rsync for Windows can be found inside the old PIK http://cdimage.debian.org/~costar/pseudo-image-kit/. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
