Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: 
That seems very unlikely to me.  Diversity is an important part of
Debian.  I think it is likely that the TC is going to value the Debian
Menu as long as Bill or someone else is going to work on it.  I would
expect us to value the menu enough to enable those who want to
contribute to it to do so.

Given the state menu is in, reading this is… flabbergasting, to say the
least. I would answer tons of things, but fortunately they have already
been put together concisely: http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ 

I think that's consistent with the consensus proposal that you asked us
to consider in this bug.

The consensus proposal was, in order to preserve some bits of Bill’s
ego, to let menu die slowly by stopping to require mandatory entries for
a useless menu system that only a handful of obscure window managers are
still able to display. Now that Bill has made very clear, by completely
giving in to ridicule, that his ego should not be a problem, Charles is
merely proposing to accelerate that process and avoid pain for everyone.

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Joss


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Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-24 Thread Sam Hartman
 Charles == Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:

Charles I made efforts to keep the wording mild, but I think that
Charles it was an error.
 From your attiude as the lead person behind the Debian Menu, it
 is clear that
Charles it has no future.  For one decade, you have taken no
Charles leadership to build this future.  As a consequence, I think
Charles that the next step is to plan its replacement and
Charles deprecation.  Maybe the TC will come to this conclusion.

That seems very unlikely to me.  Diversity is an important part of
Debian.  I think it is likely that the TC is going to value the Debian
Menu as long as Bill or someone else is going to work on it.  I would
expect us to value the menu enough to enable those who want to
contribute to it to do so.

I think that's consistent with the consensus proposal that you asked us
to consider in this bug.


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