Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
Hello El 16/1/19 a las 21:06, Niko Tyni escribió: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:07:41PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: >> Package: www.debian.org >> Tags: patch >> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-ctte@lists.debian.org >> >> Hi, please find attached a patch to update >> https://www.debian.org/intro/organization >> for the recent tech-ctte membership changes. >> >> It also updates the rather outdated list of past members on >> https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte > > Hi, a gentle ping on this? Marga has been TC chair since March, > but the organization web page is still out of date... > Apologies, I don't know how this escaped my radar for so long :( Thank you very much for the several patches. I have applied manually the remaining changes (the tag was already updated from chairman to chair): https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/commit/ac1da4ccb9b5b731fadd14cc4bc892ec59247424 The updated page should be online in the next hours. Kind regards, -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:07:41PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > Package: www.debian.org > Tags: patch > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-ctte@lists.debian.org > > Hi, please find attached a patch to update > https://www.debian.org/intro/organization > for the recent tech-ctte membership changes. > > It also updates the rather outdated list of past members on > https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte Hi, a gentle ping on this? Marga has been TC chair since March, but the organization web page is still out of date... -- Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 at 01:47:03 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > - > domain="organization">chairman > > + > domain="organization">chair > > Can't we use neutral term "chairperson" as a tag even though we will > never see it. If you're going to rename the tag (and risk breaking something else that might be relying on it), then I think it would make more sense to match the content (and the term in the constitution) and use . Renaming it, but to a different gender-neutral term, seems like the worst of both worlds to me. smcv
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 01:47:03AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 06:22:00PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > > -Didier Raboud > > +Didier Raboud > > Philip Hands > > Tollef Fog Heen > > -Margarita Manterola > > +Margarita Manterola > > Can't we use neutral term "chairperson" as a tag even though we will > never see it. I'm all for that, but in this bug I'm trying to bring the actual web content up to date (including but not limited to the above changes.) Tag changes are IMO a separate matter. Could you please file another bug about that? I assume there are translations somewhere that will need updating if the tag name changes. -- Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
Hi, I am not too keen to be a EEOE person to be a language police. (Well I don't live in such a nice country which used to championed it.) But ... On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 06:22:00PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: ... > Index: english/intro/organization.data > === > RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v > retrieving revision 1.574 > diff -u -r1.574 organization.data > --- english/intro/organization.data 20 Mar 2018 05:49:08 - 1.574 > +++ english/intro/organization.data 26 Mar 2018 15:20:57 - > @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ > domain="organization">wizard > # we only use the chairman tag once, for techctte, I wonder why it's here. > > - domain="organization">chairman > + domain="organization">chair > # assistant tag added for DPL "second in command" > > domain="organization">assistant > @@ -71,10 +71,10 @@ > 1498053993.4017640.1016684592.748e3...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > 1514922200.4161380.1222079088.19895...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > 1521224077.296447.1305789200.53c43...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > -Didier Raboud > +Didier Raboud > Philip Hands > Tollef Fog Heen > -Margarita Manterola > +Margarita Manterola > David Bremner > Niko Tyni > Gunnar Wolf Can't we use neutral term "chairperson" as a tag even though we will never see it. Osamu
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 04:10:33PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 at 17:33:15 +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > > > > - > domain="organization">chairman > > + > domain="organization">chair > ... > > -Didier Raboud > ... > > +Margarita Manterola > > I don't really speak WML, but I think you probably need to > instead of if you want to > use further down the document. The alternative would be to leave the > machine-readable tag as but make it produce the human-readable > text "chair", as in a previous patch. The version in this patch looks > like a middle ground between the two that isn't going to work as intended. Oh right, thanks for noticing! I had that right earlier but goofed it up this time. New version attached... -- Niko Index: english/devel/tech-ctte.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/tech-ctte.wml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 tech-ctte.wml --- english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 29 Jan 2017 03:32:44 - 1.71 +++ english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 26 Mar 2018 15:20:57 - @@ -316,6 +316,12 @@ Thanks to the following people who have served on the committee: +Keith Packard (2013-11-29 - 2017-12-31) +Sam Hartman (2015-03-08 - 2017-11-09) +Don Armstrong (2009-09-11 - 2016-12-31) +Andreas Barth (2006-01-04 - 2016-12-31) +Steve Langasek (2006-01-04 - 2015-12-31) +Bdale Garbee (2001-04-17 - 2015-12-31) Colin Watson (2011-08-24 - 2015-03-05) Ian Jackson (to 2014-11-19) Russ Allbery (2009-01-11 - 2014-11-16) Index: english/intro/organization.data === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v retrieving revision 1.574 diff -u -r1.574 organization.data --- english/intro/organization.data 20 Mar 2018 05:49:08 - 1.574 +++ english/intro/organization.data 26 Mar 2018 15:20:57 - @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ wizard # we only use the chairman tag once, for techctte, I wonder why it's here. -chairman +chair # assistant tag added for DPL "second in command" assistant @@ -71,10 +71,10 @@ -Didier Raboud +Didier Raboud Philip Hands Tollef Fog Heen -Margarita Manterola +Margarita Manterola David Bremner Niko Tyni Gunnar Wolf
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 at 17:33:15 +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > > - domain="organization">chairman > + domain="organization">chair ... > -Didier Raboud ... > +Margarita Manterola I don't really speak WML, but I think you probably need to instead of if you want to use further down the document. The alternative would be to leave the machine-readable tag as but make it produce the human-readable text "chair", as in a previous patch. The version in this patch looks like a middle ground between the two that isn't going to work as intended. smcv
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 04:12:18PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 08:40:14PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:07:41PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > > > > > Hi, please find attached a patch to update > > > https://www.debian.org/intro/organization > > > for the recent tech-ctte membership changes. > > > > > > It also updates the rather outdated list of past members on > > > https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte > > > > Updated patch attached after today's nomination. > > Updated patch attached after today's chair election (#893200). > I don't think this needs a separate 'appointment email' link as the > chair is elected by the committee itself. > > I also changed the 'chairman' tag to output 'chair' as per > https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_003 but didn't dare to rename the > tag itself in case that would break translations or something. I see Laura recently updated the organization page, thanks! That mostly covered (and invalidated) my patch; updated once more. The remaining changes are documenting Marga as tech-ctte chair, and updating the historical list of members in /devel/tech-ctte. -- Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org Index: english/devel/tech-ctte.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/tech-ctte.wml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 tech-ctte.wml --- english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 29 Jan 2017 03:32:44 - 1.71 +++ english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 26 Mar 2018 14:26:16 - @@ -316,6 +316,12 @@ Thanks to the following people who have served on the committee: +Keith Packard (2013-11-29 - 2017-12-31) +Sam Hartman (2015-03-08 - 2017-11-09) +Don Armstrong (2009-09-11 - 2016-12-31) +Andreas Barth (2006-01-04 - 2016-12-31) +Steve Langasek (2006-01-04 - 2015-12-31) +Bdale Garbee (2001-04-17 - 2015-12-31) Colin Watson (2011-08-24 - 2015-03-05) Ian Jackson (to 2014-11-19) Russ Allbery (2009-01-11 - 2014-11-16) Index: english/intro/organization.data === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v retrieving revision 1.574 diff -u -r1.574 organization.data --- english/intro/organization.data 20 Mar 2018 05:49:08 - 1.574 +++ english/intro/organization.data 26 Mar 2018 14:26:16 - @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ wizard # we only use the chairman tag once, for techctte, I wonder why it's here. -chairman +chair # assistant tag added for DPL "second in command" assistant @@ -71,10 +71,10 @@ -Didier Raboud +Didier Raboud Philip Hands Tollef Fog Heen -Margarita Manterola +Margarita Manterola David Bremner Niko Tyni Gunnar Wolf
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 08:40:14PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:07:41PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > > > Hi, please find attached a patch to update > > https://www.debian.org/intro/organization > > for the recent tech-ctte membership changes. > > > > It also updates the rather outdated list of past members on > > https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte > > Updated patch attached after today's nomination. Updated patch attached after today's chair election (#893200). I don't think this needs a separate 'appointment email' link as the chair is elected by the committee itself. I also changed the 'chairman' tag to output 'chair' as per https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_003 but didn't dare to rename the tag itself in case that would break translations or something. -- Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org Index: english/devel/tech-ctte.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/tech-ctte.wml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 tech-ctte.wml --- english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 29 Jan 2017 03:32:44 - 1.71 +++ english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 25 Mar 2018 13:02:02 - @@ -316,6 +316,12 @@ Thanks to the following people who have served on the committee: +Keith Packard (2013-11-29 - 2017-12-31) +Sam Hartman (2015-03-08 - 2017-11-09) +Don Armstrong (2009-09-11 - 2016-12-31) +Andreas Barth (2006-01-04 - 2016-12-31) +Steve Langasek (2006-01-04 - 2015-12-31) +Bdale Garbee (2001-04-17 - 2015-12-31) Colin Watson (2011-08-24 - 2015-03-05) Ian Jackson (to 2014-11-19) Russ Allbery (2009-01-11 - 2014-11-16) Index: english/intro/organization.data === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v retrieving revision 1.564 diff -u -r1.564 organization.data --- english/intro/organization.data 21 Dec 2017 06:52:58 - 1.564 +++ english/intro/organization.data 25 Mar 2018 13:02:02 - @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ wizard # we only use the chairman tag once, for techctte, I wonder why it's here. -chairman +chair # assistant tag added for DPL "second in command" assistant @@ -65,15 +65,15 @@ Leader> - Technical Committee> -Didier Raboud + Technical Committee> +Didier Raboud Philip Hands -Sam Hartman Tollef Fog Heen -Keith Packard -Margarita Manterola +Margarita Manterola David Bremner Niko Tyni +Gunnar Wolf +Simon McVittie Secretary> Kurt Roeckx
Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:07:41PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > Hi, please find attached a patch to update > https://www.debian.org/intro/organization > for the recent tech-ctte membership changes. > > It also updates the rather outdated list of past members on > https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte Updated patch attached after today's nomination. -- Niko Index: english/devel/tech-ctte.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/tech-ctte.wml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 tech-ctte.wml --- english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 29 Jan 2017 03:32:44 - 1.71 +++ english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 16 Mar 2018 18:31:13 - @@ -316,6 +316,12 @@ Thanks to the following people who have served on the committee: +Keith Packard (2013-11-29 - 2017-12-31) +Sam Hartman (2015-03-08 - 2017-11-09) +Don Armstrong (2009-09-11 - 2016-12-31) +Andreas Barth (2006-01-04 - 2016-12-31) +Steve Langasek (2006-01-04 - 2015-12-31) +Bdale Garbee (2001-04-17 - 2015-12-31) Colin Watson (2011-08-24 - 2015-03-05) Ian Jackson (to 2014-11-19) Russ Allbery (2009-01-11 - 2014-11-16) Index: english/intro/organization.data === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v retrieving revision 1.564 diff -u -r1.564 organization.data --- english/intro/organization.data 21 Dec 2017 06:52:58 - 1.564 +++ english/intro/organization.data 16 Mar 2018 18:31:13 - @@ -65,15 +65,15 @@ Leader> - Technical Committee> + Technical Committee> Didier Raboud Philip Hands -Sam Hartman Tollef Fog Heen -Keith Packard Margarita Manterola David Bremner Niko Tyni +Gunnar Wolf +Simon McVittie Secretary> Kurt Roeckx
Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates
Package: www.debian.org Tags: patch X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-ctte@lists.debian.org Hi, please find attached a patch to update https://www.debian.org/intro/organization for the recent tech-ctte membership changes. It also updates the rather outdated list of past members on https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte I'm copying the tech-ctte list; eyeballs would be welcome. Please speak up if you spot an error or omission. Thanks for your work on Debian, -- Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org Index: english/intro/organization.data === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v retrieving revision 1.564 diff -u -r1.564 organization.data --- english/intro/organization.data 21 Dec 2017 06:52:58 - 1.564 +++ english/intro/organization.data 17 Jan 2018 21:00:23 - @@ -65,15 +65,14 @@ Leader> - Technical Committee> + Technical Committee> Didier Raboud Philip Hands -Sam Hartman Tollef Fog Heen -Keith Packard Margarita Manterola David Bremner Niko Tyni +Gunnar Wolf Secretary> Kurt Roeckx Index: english/devel/tech-ctte.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/tech-ctte.wml,v retrieving revision 1.71 diff -u -r1.71 tech-ctte.wml --- english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 29 Jan 2017 03:32:44 - 1.71 +++ english/devel/tech-ctte.wml 17 Jan 2018 21:00:23 - @@ -316,6 +316,12 @@ Thanks to the following people who have served on the committee: +Keith Packard (2013-11-29 - 2017-12-31) +Sam Hartman (2015-03-08 - 2017-11-09) +Don Armstrong (2009-09-11 - 2016-12-31) +Andreas Barth (2006-01-04 - 2016-12-31) +Steve Langasek (2006-01-04 - 2015-12-31) +Bdale Garbee (2001-04-17 - 2015-12-31) Colin Watson (2011-08-24 - 2015-03-05) Ian Jackson (to 2014-11-19) Russ Allbery (2009-01-11 - 2014-11-16)